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By Michael Wisotzkey (Afireinside) (24.171.107.160) on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 12:04 am:

We get lots of new members for x-mas on here.

By Michael Wisotzkey (Afireinside) (24.171.107.160) on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 12:49 pm:

I like the off topic board suggested by ..ME. Hehe. Now we can talk without hogging up space on other boards

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.163) on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 02:58 pm:

Michael, that's good idea, because we always start talking about wrong things in wrong places;)

Iines

By Michael Wisotzkey (Afireinside) (24.171.107.160) on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 06:27 pm:

I was called a geek for being so intrested in World War II. Thats pretty stupid. I guess when we get to WWII in social studies they will beg for help

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (62.7.84.40) on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 08:35 pm:

"If you don't know your history,
"Then you don't know where you're coming from.."

Bob Marley (Buffalo Soldier)

Regards, Jonathan.

By yvette thomas (Bettyb) (194.117.133.182) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:29 pm:

I think it's every persons responsibility to know they're countries history, and events that made the world we live in what it is. I worry that by the time my kids are older, history will become less important, and things will get forgotten and swept under the carpet. I've always had a keen interest in all aspects of history, and couldn't care less if i were referred to as a geek-i have my own mind, and own interests, and nobody else'sopinion will change what i like to do.!

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (213.1.60.20) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:56 pm:

Good For You!

I'm afraid that history is a declining topic as far as I'm aware. More and more folks just can't relate to the past 'cos they're too anxious about now and the future. They've not got the message that history is the study of people, their triumphs and mistakes. Thus a massive resource that we could learn from, and seek to emulate or even improve upon without having to go through the painful procesess that a lack of knowledge of history may dictate. Pause for breath.

How many generations have repeated the same mistakes instead of learning from the past and thus saving time (and a whole lot of other resources, including lives) which they could have put to better use?

People are people, they're hardly different even if one wore a toga, another wore a parachute smock, and a third wore a "Niner's" shirt.

Regards, Jonathan.

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.165) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 03:27 pm:

Yes, i don't understand how some people can't approve others's intrestests I think history is really important thing to learn.
I won't stop liking BoB and other these things just because my friends don't like it... maybe i'm not so interested about pop stars or something like that but so what, i have my own stars

Iines

By Michael Wisotzkey (Afireinside) (24.171.107.160) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 06:24 pm:

I love history, its my favoirte class. Im only in 8th grade, we dont get WWII till 11th .

By yvette thomas (Bettyb) (194.117.133.182) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 06:41 pm:

I think that having a broad range of knowledge about events in the world past/present make you a more interesting and rounded person-how often do these pop stars have their 5 minutes of glory? beig remembered for having a certain number of record sales is not an achievment in my book-contributing to make the world a better, safer place is something i'd like to be remebered by. With all that money what do they do?-spend it on flash cars and massives houses with too many bloody rooms, and they're not even there half the time!
I'm an individuual, with an open mind, and when the skiddlies get old enough, i'll be telling them about people like Winston Churchill NOT Britney bloomin Spears!

Jonathon, you'd have thought by now that we would have learnt from past mitakes, but humans are misguided by power, and devious people with only their own interests at heart

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (62.7.38.8) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 08:02 pm:

You got that right Yvette, ego and pride can be terrible things if they're not tempered with humility and modesty.

One of the scariest concepts that I've been obliged to swallow is the fact that Hitler and his Nazi cronies (not talking about ALL the German forces here) really believed that they were doing right by the terrible things that they were responsible for. If anyone reads any transcripts of the war trials then it clearly comes to light that they genuinely thought that they were doing the world a service and that it was WE who were misguided.

Their lack of appreciation for our own perspective
was not necessarily some kind of haughty, superior stance. In many cases it was almost a childlike naivity with a complete lack of appreciation for the consequences of their actions. Such had they swallowed the doctrine of one madman, hook, line and sinker.

Human gulability and susceptability to the stronger willed can be as equally frightening.

As I've posted elsewhere:

"Do not trust those who seek power,
What do they want power for?" Socrates.

Regards, Jonathan.

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.13) on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 02:58 pm:

You are very right Yvette

Iines

By joao leonel (Joao) (200.163.13.55) on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 08:48 pm:

Hey maybe britney is a relative of ronald speirs
:~)

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 10:49 pm:

LOL! That was Britney Spears not Speirs ;)

gold

By yvette thomas (Bettyb) (194.117.133.182) on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 11:37 am:

NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO! don't wish that on anyone!
britney bloody spears..i dunno!

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (213.123.50.146) on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 05:24 pm:

Ron, it's time to dust off the Thompson, do the world a favour and rid us of yet another plastic princess...

Jonathan.

By Michael Wisotzkey (Afireinside) (24.171.107.160) on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 05:44 pm:

Hahahahaha.
Doubt it.
Speirs is too hardcore for Britney.
Only rumors Britney has is about her implants
LOL!

By joao (200.193.227.42) on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 01:28 am:

Oh yeah its spears and speirs sorry LoL hahe

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (213.122.255.159) on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 12:54 pm:

When does the dear "child" have her personality implant, then? And does she plan to learn how to sing down anything but a poorly connected telephone line to Mozambique?

Regards, Jonathan.

By Michael Wisotzkey (Afireinside) (24.171.107.160) on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 10:25 am:

You guys are so silly.

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (213.122.234.34) on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 05:20 pm:

We would be if we bought her merchandise.

Jonathan.

By Aya (Aya) (203.124.2.40) on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 07:07 am:

I'm trying to attach a couple of shots of a local celebrity. It could be just me and my own eyes, but I need other people to look at these pictures and tell me that this girl does NOT resemble one of the cast of Band of Brothers enough, to be his sister!

Aya

ps. Pls bear with me in case I don't get this right!

Asha Gill 1

Asha Gill 2

By Aya (Aya) (165.21.83.197) on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 07:10 am:

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaa!!!! I think I've got the pictures uploaded properly. heheheh If you can view the images, pls pls PLEASE tell me whom she could possibly remind you of, from any one of the cast of "Band of Brothers". I'm not going to say anything else. ;P

Aya

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (213.1.67.158) on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 01:29 pm:

It's Tom Hanks' son in drag?

Jonathan.

By Aya (Aya) (203.120.44.8) on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 09:15 pm:

Hi, Jonathan. How are you? hahahaah That was a good one but nope - not him. hahahahaa Okay then again maybe it's just me and my short-sighted vision.

Look again and maybe this time focus a little more on her eyes, the steely glare, try to visualise her as a he, without make-up, short wavy black hair, face less full (i.e. more prominent cheekbones, more chiseled features) and half hidden in the shadows of a helmet.

Aya

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.131.242.188) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 07:34 am:

Hiya Aya,
I'm fine thanks (though I may not be soon as I'm off to the gym), how are you?

I must say that yo have an eye for detail when it comes to facial features!

I've taken your advice and looked her in the eyes.

Does she accept personal callers?

"Sigh", Jonathan.

By yvette thomas (Bettyb) (194.117.133.182) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 11:29 am:

I hope you're not referring to my Mr Settle? i'm outraged !

Perhaps if i shut one eye, look from far away, stand on my head, and hop on one foot ( not an easy task, i admit,), perhaps there's a slight possibility.....nope, looks nothing likes him. AhA!

a slighty worried,

yeti

p.s
i think she looks too scary to accept anything? i'd fear for my life if i bumped into her on a dark night......which i must try and stop, this bumping into strangers on dark nights, i'll get meself a reputation....

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.131.243.173) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 01:38 pm:

If you shut one eye, look from far away, stand on your head and hop on one foot, remember to:

1) Send photographic proof here.
2) Wear trousers (this point is VERY important).

You're right. She does look a bit scary now that you mention it. However, she COULD own a bar, which means I'm still willing to save the world and take the risk.....

Jonathan (of the steel resolve).

By yvette thomas (Bettyb) (194.117.133.182) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 04:40 pm:

I think that i would need to have a strong fizzy pop from her bar to perform said task to distinguish who exactly that it is she looks like.

I shall indeed wear trousers-clown ones with purple spots, and just for the sheer entertainment value, i'll put custard and jelly down them too.

try to be brave, jonathan, as you save the world from scary lady, we'll be thinking of you.

By joao leonel (Joao) (200.163.13.190) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 07:05 pm:

Nixon!

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (62.7.127.47) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 08:03 pm:

Joao? Nixon? You may have a point. But her eyebrows are bushier.

Yvette, I've heard that it's the law for the custard and jelly to go down the inside of your clown strides. They employ dwarves as inspectors (one to each leg) who then have to test the wearer by hugging both legs at the same time. No gusher around the waist and ankles can result in a harsh fine.

Now that you mention it, she hardly looks like the type to own a bar, does she? Prop one up, yes. But own it?

Oh well, my eternal quest must continue......

Jonathan.

By Aya (Aya) (203.126.27.196) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 08:42 pm:

hahahahahaha Her name's Asha Gill, she's our host for the local verson of the game show "The Weakest Link".

Yvette, oh Yvette... THANK YOU but SORRY!!!!!!!

I was channel surfing one night and I hit the VCD player's remote control instead of the TV set's. From TCS Channel 5 "The Weakest Link", to suddenly "Band of Brothers" and guess who popped up on screen. Monsieur Settle. I kept switching back and forth from "Band of Brothers" to "The Weakest Link" and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH it's not happening oh shhh.....tt!!! "MUM!!! MUUUUUMM!!! You have to see this!!! LOOK LOOK LOOK!!!"

I only showed her Asha, I didn't even flip the VCD player on, and asked Mum which "Band of Brothers" character first came to mind. And she calmly responded: "Speirs." MUUUMMMMMMMM!!!

She doesn't look so much like him in the 2-D pictures but someone has to see her in person. I saw her on the streets once before and Jonathan, if you didn't know her personally her glare alone could freeze you dead in your tracks. You ought to see her in action in "The Weakest Link". I've tried doing still lifes of Settle and Asha before and well, sketch strokes aren't always ever uniform but I found that my hand had to move similarly when I had to sketch out the general vicinity of the T-zone of their facial features.

Without meaning any disrespect whatsoever to anyone hahahahaha yah-HAH, for me at least Asha could pass off as Settle's sister or blood relative.

Jonathan, this is for you [bet you might want to kick yourself after this]:

http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/women/story/0,1870,152363,00.html

Got to get back to work -

Aya

By Aya (Aya) (203.120.44.8) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 08:44 pm:

Oh wait!!!

Joao: Nixon? Let me look again. heheheeheh Might be, might be. Ron Livingstone's face-shape seems more similar to Asha's at a glance.

Aya

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 09:33 pm:

LOL! finally! I kept putting my hands in my monitor trying to cover up the upper and lower part of the face and i look silly doing it but i still couldn't get it!!!

gold

By joao leonel (Joao) (200.163.13.190) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 10:32 pm:

Oh yeah she looks like speirs !
If you put a helmet on and an uniform thats it!
She can be nixon too.. hehehe

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.131.149.175) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 05:30 pm:

Aya, thanks so much for that link.

She came from Malaysia to the UK to boarding school and university? This means she comes from a wealthy background. She's good looking too.

This means she could potentially own a bar or two.
This could also mean that she's a spoiled brat whose father no-doubt called her "princess" and would give her anything she wanted. She also hosts the local version of weakest link, a gameshow.

I think she represents just about everything that I want to forget exists.

"Sob" - she's just not the same girl who I met (on this board) just a few days ago. We just have nothing in common. I'm off home to mother.

Jonathan.

By Janine (Janine) (139.134.64.157) on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 11:22 pm:

Hi everyone!

I just want to know if there are any huge Tom Hanks fans here cos I just absolutely love the guy! He is the best actor in the world!!! :D

By Melissa Clay (Melissa2800) (66.166.47.71) on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 08:23 am:

Yes, I am one. I have loved him since "Bosom Buddies"!!!!
He is a great actor & I have watched everything that he has done even the not so big blockbuster movies.
He symbolizes the all-american guy - the guy you could bring home to your parents & you know they would love him too!!
Plus, he appreciates what the veterans did during WWII & he uses his star power to make good movies like SPR & BOB.
Melissa

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 09:16 pm:

one helluvan actor!!!

gold

By Janine (Janine) (139.134.63.153) on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 10:00 pm:

lol. The best way to distinguish a true Tom Hanks fan from the average Tom Hanks fan is that a true fan watches the not so great movies that he makes and still manages to find something good about the film :D

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.24) on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 09:35 am:

Yes, Tom Hanks is great! I especially love him in "Apollo 13" and then in the movie called "Turner and Hooch" where Tom works with a huge dog. I wonder why he didn't act in BoB himself...

Iines

By Bill DeMartini (Easycompany506) (139.177.224.100) on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 10:54 am:

I think Hanks best ever roll was his character in Saving Private Ryan. The way he was able to portray what those guys went through on DDay and the days that followed with his incredible facial expressions was just phenomenal.

I think putting himself in BoB would have been wierd after everyone already associated him with his SPR character.

By Melissa Clay (Melissa2800) (66.166.47.71) on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 11:12 am:

I agree, Bill.
But he did appear in "Replacements" as an extra.
So in a way, he was in BOB.
Melissa

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.131.61.63) on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 05:38 pm:

Are you wimmin' letching or do you just wanna "mother" him?

Jonathan.

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 09:41 pm:

Um...both? j/k

gold

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.131.137.169) on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 07:37 pm:

May I express my deepest sympathy to those related in any shape or form to the tragic news of what happened over the Lone Star State today.

Astronauts are the pioneers for mankind's future.

Jonathan.

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 09:18 pm:

My thoughts and prayers are with them

gold

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.161) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 02:24 pm:

Yes, that was terrible news Hope they are in peace now.

I got sad feeling yesterday when i watched my DVDs: I though that what about when i have watched all the episodes thousand times and all the extras and everything i can about BoB...and i know every single thing from them...can i still be interested about it?? I don't know yet, i have tried to avoid watching them too often but still i have watched some episodes more than ten times. It would be great if there were more episodes...more to watch. I hope they do something new to us BoB fans and BoB never be forgotten, or at least for a long time.
I hope you know what i mean

Iines

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.131.228.204) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:38 pm:

Quality is quality. Now that we've seen Saving Pvt Ryan and BoB, producers have a benchmark to work to. Just as long as the likes of Dale Dye have anything to say about it!

There are some great books out there that can flesh out the stories even more and then there are museums and reenactment events to attend both in the US and Europe.

I'm sure you'll find something that will catch your eye.

Regards, Jonathan.

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.142) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 02:24 pm:

Yes...It's great that there are books etc. so much. And if i get a change to travel, i know where to go (Normandy!). Let's just wait that next movie they make to us!

Iines

By Jocelyn (Jocey) (143.235.51.67) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 02:48 pm:

Ok i have a question where in "replacements" does Hanks appear, i don't know how many times i've watched it and i've never seen him? And i thought i heard he was in "crossroads" but he directed that one. i'm so lost. anyway regarding the topics on the top of the page i think history is the most important subject. we can all learn to write the alphabet and add and subtract but if we don't know our history what our country went through how we were then what's the point of trying to better our selves for the future? If we don't know what we've been throguh and what others have fought and died for what we have today why are we fighting now? honestly it makes me sad that when i have children i may have to be responsible to teach them of the great men and women who lived before them and died to give them the freedoms they have. Right now i'm in college i am studying history, i eventually would like to recieve my doctorate in history and write books and to make sure that the great stories of sacrafice, suffering, heroism, courage and commitment will be remembered. I have talked with several war veterans from WW2 and Vietnam, i have recorded one such interview. The man had an amazing story, he was in Bastogne with the 101st and the 82nd. He was in the 10th armoured. I want to make it my job that his story and all like it will forever be remembered. My grandfather was in ww2 he died when i was very young, so i want to make sure i know who he was and make sure that even though he was not a nice man the courage he demonstrated in the war will be remembered. i think as an older generation it's our job to keep these stories alive maybe i'm not part of the older generation being that i'm only 18 but none-the-less our history and our freedom are the only things wortt fighting for. To commemorate the memory of those who went before us, we must never forget and never let future generations forget either.

Currahee
Jocey

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.8) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 02:30 pm:

Jocelyn,
I haven't seen Tom either, no matter how often i try to look him from "crossroads"...But i haven't look from "replacements" yet. In replacements, he should be standing in a first tank coming into the square in Eindhoven.
I'm in college too, and i usually wonder why they don't teach history very much...feels so unnecessary to learn for example maths. I mean, it's necessary when it's about basic things, but when it comes to college level, it's about things that only some engineers need in their life. And in the same time, people don't even know when WW2 was!
Great that you have had a change to talk with veterans

Iines

By ashide (81.102.58.62) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 12:50 pm:

I have just joined this amazing site & I am so pleased to have found it. I served 14 years in British airborne forces but my interest is furthered because I had a grandfather who was at Arnhem sept'44 with British 10 Para & he told me of some brave Yank Paras that came & helped come & get them back across the Rhine. It's good now to be able to say thank you. Could you please pass this on to any surviving members of the rescue team.

By Sergeant First Class Danny Autrey (Retiredarmy) (198.36.178.141) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 03:28 pm:

Ashide: welcome aboard mate! Nice to have a Brit military vet joining we here at this site. Read the many post here to catch up. This is a great site.

Danny Autrey
Sergeant First Class, US Army (Retired)

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 04:20 pm:

Welcome Ashide and enjoy the site!

gold

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.131.5.121) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 05:41 pm:

Hiya Ashide,

My great uncle was a sergeant in 3 Para at Arnhem and I'm gearing up to go over there as soon as I can. He recently let slip that he could remember the paras taking shots at the German officers in their Kubelwagons as they were crossing over the bridge.

"Wild" Bill told me that he was involved in the river crossing to rescue some our paras and some Dutch, also.

Regards, Jonathan.

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.186) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 03:14 pm:

Hi!
I finally saw Saving Private Ryan yesterday and it was really wonderful movie. Many ways similiar than BoB, but i think it was little more gloomy...
I think that idea to put a group of men to save one man was little unthinking. I understand how terrible it was to their mum, but after all almost every mothers lost their sons.
The end was so sad...i cried my eyes off when Miller died I hate this kind of ends!
Miller somehow resembles Winters

Iines

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 04:02 pm:

*sniff* it's been a long time since the last time i watched SPR. Was really quite a movie, after all, it's Tom Hanks. But BoB is still the BEST!!!

gold

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.53) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 07:00 am:

I agree, nothing can beat BoB!

Iines

By Penil Chhiba (Penil) (80.225.18.84) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 01:53 pm:

Yeah Saving Private Ryan is a pretty good film, and indeed Captain Miller does have some resemblences to Captain Winters! I never enjoy watching the beginning of the film, with the brutal reality of warfare on Omaha beach. Still, films such as Saving Private Ryan and TV series such as Band of Brothers are fantastic for theit educational quality, for they provide us with the most realistic impression of what it must have been like 59/60 years ago.

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.135.128.195) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 02:18 pm:

For a war film, SPR is quite superb and in a class of its own. They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so SPR should win, there.

The advantage of BoB is the length of time its allowed to retell the story and thus the greater depth it afforded the viewer. This made it easier for the viewer to establish connections and for instance, get to like some of the characters.

However, in SPR (due to its fast paced and tragic brutality)I found myself not wanting to form those connections.

Regards, Jonathan.

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.126.111) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 02:45 pm:

Yes, that Omaha-beach landing was really horrible! Had to be really lucky to escape from there.
I agree, BoB's one big advantage is that length. I didn't even learn those main charachter's names in SPR, except Ryan and Miller. And i really started love all BoB charachters, so many great wednesday nights i spent with them;)
Maybe after watching SPR many times again, it's charachters become more familiar too

Iines

By Penil Chhiba (Penil) (80.225.36.29) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 04:36 pm:

I hope that there will be some more War movies of the same quality as SPR and BoB. I've recently seen bits of the films Hart's war and Windtalkers, and all I can say is they are very mediocre, which really seem to exploit the idea of War and action just to make a stupidly biased and horribly predictable movie!

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.133) on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 12:52 pm:

I haven't seen many war movies, but they that i've seen have been a lot worse than BoB and SPR. I rode from one newspaper that BoB is so special because there aren't any romantic by-plot in it, and they don't use time to describe privates' backgrouds like in many other war movies. Don't know if that makes it so good...
I've been thinking to buy Hart's war DVD but maybe not then if it isn't so great.
Yes, hopefully they make more movies like BoB & SPR

Iines

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.131.161.248) on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 05:52 pm:

Folks, you've got a point re: Hart's War and Windtalkers. I thought that both movies had their moments but were just not of the same gritty quality as SPR and BoB.

Regards, Jonathan.

By Penil Chhiba (Penil) (80.225.36.148) on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 07:29 pm:

Yeah, I mean Windtalkers could really have been a fantastic film, telling the story of the Navajo codetalkers during world war II, but instead we had John Woo prioritising on the special effects and action scenes more than anything else! grrr films like that really make me sick!

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.131.156.29) on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 12:45 pm:

No argument here! I was hoping that after SPR filmakers would go for the increased realism. Then we got the likes of Pearl Harbour. Hargh!
Give me "Tora Tora Tora" anyday.
Jonathan.

By steve lundy (Breechblock) (206.172.208.185) on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 03:02 pm:

Hi Everyone,
One movie that I seen which was a huge wind sucker was Thin Red Line. My god, the last time I was that bored my eye balls rolled back in my head to see if my brain was still alive.
I somewhat enjoyed enemy at the gates, fairly realistic and worthwhile seeing a few more times.
Another one which is a little closer to home for me is Behind Enemy Lines. The Serbs really acted like the dicks they portrayed in the movie, and just as ruthless. When watching it, I damn near put my foot through the T.V. BASTARDS!!
Oh well, thank god for Field Marshall Domastic to calm me down. I'll just have another beer.{while cleaning my sten}
Hope everyone is well,
Steve L.
P.S. Jonathan, Tora Tora Tora was o.k but the Duke in the Sands of Iwo Jima, man, that one's great.

By Celeste Valenzuela (Lushybubls) (12.213.16.217) on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 06:08 pm:

Hi guys,

Just wondering if Apocalypse Now is worth seeing. I've heard different opinions about it, but I just wanted to know what you guys thought of it. I was thinking of getting the DVD.

By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (81.131.194.88) on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 06:19 pm:

Steve,
The Duke outside of Fort Bragg is even better. Hargh!

I quite like Enemy at the Gates and the German production Stalingrad is gritty, too. Apocalipse Now - classic crazy film. An aquired taste, as some might say.

Regards, Jonathan.

By Michael Wisotzkey (Afireinside) (24.171.107.160) on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 08:57 pm:

Look...http://www.teamwickedfury.com/forum/images/avatars/40795c093e6f53d67c845.gif

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (62.251.51.100) on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 12:58 pm:

hi everyone....

i have to do a final assignment for this course (called 'introduction to american studies') i am taking at university, and i was wondering if someone could help me find an AMERICAN WW2 song (army or homefront) that can be in any way related to the topic 'USA & the World'....that's kind of vague, i know....

to be a bit more specific: through the lyrics of the song, something should be made clear about the relationship between the US and 'the rest of the world'...so i am not talking 'hitler has only got 1 b***' or 'lili marleen' but something more meaningful (however, funny lyrics are ok!)....
ideally, the song features some of the other allied nations involved in WW2.

i know this is a challenge, but i am really hoping someone has a suggestion! i've been searching on the internet, but haven't found anything useful yet...

thanks in advance!

irene vrinte,
nijmegen

By alan james o'reilly (Alanor) (62.254.64.5) on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 03:05 pm:

Hi Irene

I hope the following is useful. First, the music of Glenn Miller tended to dominate popular music culture in the 1940's, the era of "swing". You will no doubt find a lot on the web.

The ordinary GI, though, was probably still conservative enough in his tastes to enjoy old time sentimental ballads, of which the most popular was probably "Red River Valley". See

http://www.contemplator.com/folk2/redriver.html

Another popular one, probably, though more localised, was "Moonlight on the Wabash", see

http://www.roadescape.com/INsong.html
http://www.recmusic.org/lieder/d/dresser/wab.html
http://www.50states.com/songs/indiana.htm

These will give you both the tune and the lyrics.

Neither song relates particularly to the US and the world but Americans were more "homespun" in those days - remember their republic was founded on ideals that were meant to be practised AWAY from Europe. They were (and are) worthy ideals.

Regards
Alan

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (62.251.51.56) on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 04:23 am:

hi alan

thanks for putting those links up! i realise it might be very difficult for me to find a song that i can use on this assignment...but it is always nice to hear 40's music anyway...

irene

By alan james o'reilly (Alanor) (62.254.64.5) on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 03:01 pm:

Thanks Irene

If I remember anything else, I'll post it. WW1 was more of a 'singing' war than WW2, (though the sentimental numbers like "Tipperary" eventually gave way to the bitter trench ballads, e.g. "If you want to find your sweetheart, he's hanging on the front line wire, etc.")

By the time of WW2, folk were more used to being entertained, e.g. by radio and cinema and this may be one explanation why WW2 songs don't come readily to mind. People were no longer so accustomed to community singing.

Some WW2 songs, of course, are parodies with not too genteel lyrics. ("Red River Valley" suffered this fate, as did "The Ash Grove" and other old time favorites.)

Various ditties were composed, for distraction on the march:

"P****d last night
"P****d the night before
"Gonna get drunk tonight
"Like we've never been drunk before."

However, this passage from "Caen, Anvil of Victory" by Alexander McKie, who served in Normandy may be useful, from Chapter 10:

"Jerusalem (Blake's bitter poem set to music) [was taken up] by a great many British soldiers in Normandy as a favourite; it expressed exactly the depth of their feelings, after the first dreadful shock of battle experience. The horrible current top of the top ten 'pops', an American import called 'Mairzy doats', died in its tracks under the Spandau fire. Some of the divisions from the Mediterannean theatre preferred German or Italian versions of 'Lili Marlene'***; and while the official anthem of 15th Scottish Division was 'Scotland the Brave', the more popular unofficial tune was 'I'm nae awa' tae bide awa''. Oddly, two American discs also hit off the current mood: 'My guy, come back', and 'Long ago and far away'. This strangely assorted, apparently haphazard string of tunes had a red thread running through them; as sung or played, they were nostalgic, deeply melancholy; laments for dead friends, from those about to die."

***'Lili' also got parodied by the Brits, when Nancy Astor referred to the troops in the Med. as "D-Day dodgers" after June 6th:

"We're the D-Day dodgers, out here in Italy
"Always on the vino, always on the spree
"We're the 8th Army scroungers with our tanks
"We live in Rome, among the Yanks
"We are the D-Day dodgers, out here in Italy."

"See the little wooden crosses, in the mud and rain
"They're the D-Day dodgers who won't go home again..."

Siegfried Sassoon, the soldier poet of the 1914-18 war, who served in the Royal Welch Fusiliers, said it like this in his poem "Dreamers". I think it would have applied to Normandy and other campaigns of the 506th PIR:

"Soldiers are sworn to action; they must win
"Some flaming, fatal climax with their lives.
"Soldiers are dreamers; when the guns begin
"They think of firelit homes, clean beds and wives."

Regards
Alan

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (131.174.208.70) on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 02:38 am:

alan,

thanks for your extensive post! i appreciate it! i think i might have found something useful...woody guthrie's song 'dear mrs roosevelt' could be a good one for my assignment (the lyrics speak of hitler and stalin too, so...)

i had heard the d-day dodgers song before...just a couple of weeks ago there was a special on dutch television about lili marleen, and they also talked about the parodies to it.

anyway it seems like you're interested so i'll tell you a bit more about this assignment. i have taken this course 'introduction to american studies', and the general theme was "american myths/ideals vs american reality" throughout the centuries: we have discussed all kinds of things from colombus and the puritans to the great gatsby, west side story and spike lee's 'do the right thing'.....now i am to do the final assignment. i am supposed to pick a topic (my choice: 'america and the world') and a time-period (WW2, what else? ) and then try to find at least two cultural artefacts (films, poems, songs, posters, historical documents, personal writings, etc). i have to come up with a hypothesis (which should be about the discrepancies between myths and reality within the range of my topic) and then discuss this making use of the artefacts i've chosen...

sounds pretty vague, doesn't it? i have not yet written a hypothesis, but i am looking for cultural artefacts at the moment. (btw, those have to be of american origin, of course)...
i'd like to write about america's role in the world in WW2, how they maybe felt themselves to be the leader of the allies, their trouble in the isolation/neutrality vs active participation question right before the war, etc. i have no trouble finding artefacts that deal with the 'myths/ideals': there are plenty of united nations posters and speeches by FDR....the trouble is coming up with something that shows the discrepancies! things that show that the allies maybe weren't always that of a close-knit group, that they had different idea(l)s. for instance: something on FDR's/america's relation with stalin/russia or the problems FDR was having with the free french and general de gaulle.....

suggestions are welcome!

regards,

irene

ps did you know i am participating in nijmegen's four day march? ever heard of it? it's the 87th edition this year, over 40,000 people are walking 40 km every day for four days (160 km in total)...people from all over the world participate, many, many soldiers as well. i think there were about 1,000 US soldiers and 2,000 brits last year....it's going to be great! www.4daagse.nl

By Stephanie Ambroos (Freaky) (80.200.248.207) on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 01:40 pm:

Hi Irene

I saw that special to hihi :oD
But for your assignment I read a book last year I think 'Mars naar de overwinning ' but I can't remember the writers anymore but it thouht it were 7, It's a book about the last days of war all over the world I think it's maybe a bite interesting in general and there is another book but I don't remember the title but if you want i'll look it up, well it's a book witch is written by 10 writers from all over the world about how they experienced the last days of war.I thougt there is one from Poland, America, Holland, Germany, France etc. If you want I'll look it up. About the Poems, I know German poems from Heine, a lot of German soldiers read read his poems during WW2 but it has to be an American poem so it won't help much I think, anyway I hope the books help a little
Bye
Stephanie

By alan james o'reilly (Alanor) (62.254.64.5) on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:36 am:

Hi again Irene

To show that things weren't always sweetness and light between the allies, you might try looking at some of the behind-the-scenes machinations that influenced US policy in WW2.

This site may be useful

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/index.html.

Can recommend some other material if you decide to go down this route.

Regards
Alan

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (62.251.51.67) on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 12:52 pm:

wow alan, that is great! the website i reached via the link you provided me with offers some quite interesting views... strong language, too! the guy who wrote the article sure thinks he's right about FDR looking for an excuse to wage war, doesn't he?

this was just what i was looking for...i am going to consult the professor who teaches the course now and hopefully i'll then be able to begin investigating the material and start writing soon....

i'll keep posting here,
THANKS AGAIN!

regards,

irene

ps, stephanie, thank you too! the documentary on lili marleen was great, wasn't it?!
i'll try to find an original english copy of the book you told about...'mars naar de overwinning'...i presume the original title would be 'march to victory'? also, if it's not too much trouble, i'd really like to look into that other book you mentioned, about the different accounts of the last days of the war by people of different nationalities...so if there is any way you can provide me with the title or one or more of the authors' names, that'd be great!

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (62.251.51.67) on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 01:07 pm:

"Purnells also has an article on the Tehran Conference 1943, Vol. 4, written by a British army officer, showing the contrast between FDR, Stalin and Churchill. The same issue has an analysis of the leaders by historian A.J.P. Taylor, that seems to be along the lines that you want."

alan, do you perhaps have any idea how i can get my hands on a copy of this book/volume/issue?
i haven't heard of purnell before (shame on me!)....do you have a copy of the issue that the article? i've looked around on the internet but unfortunately there seems to be no possibility to read the article on line...it would be great to know the name of the british officer who wrote the article about the tehran conference...maybe that'll help me find it online...?

regards,
irene

ps, yes the four days march is quite a happening over here in holland! my friend and me have started training for it about 2 months ago, and we've already cursed the day we signed up for it about a hundred times...but it would be great if we could complete the four days....!

By alan james o'reilly (Alanor) (62.254.64.5) on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 02:10 pm:

Hi Irene

The series was published by Purnell and Sons back in the 60's and is probably out of print.

The Imperial War Museum may be able to help but check out your local libraries first. If they are able to obtain an interlibrary loan, you want vol's 3 and 4. It's just called Purnells' History of the Second World War.

If this doesn't work or if the loan is going to take more than a few days, send me a snail mail address OL and I'll post copies of the articles to you.

Njmegen is memorable for the scene of the 2nd Grenadiers' crossing of the bridge (I think the REs got rid of the demo charges) and the tremendous effort of the 504th PIR, 82nd Airborne making a crossing downstream in canvas boats, steered by British REs.

I like the comment made to a Guards Armoured commander, possibly Lt. Col. Joe Vandeleur, Irish Guards, played by Michael Caine in "A Bridge Too Far", possibly by Col. Sink, when the British advance had reached Son.

"You're leaving the sector of the 101st A/B and entering the sector of the 82nd A/B. So we're handing you over to the All-American. They're a good outfit but keep your hands on your wallets."

Jonathan J. probably has the exact quote.

The British officer was Lt. George Greenfield, of 2nd Buffs. He had seen action at El Alamein. I can send you the article if interlibrary loan doesn't work.

Regards
Alan

By alan james o'reilly (Alanor) (62.254.64.5) on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 04:49 pm:

Hi Irene

The following items are from Purnell's History of the Second World War, , Purnell & Sons Ltd, 49/50 Great Marlborough Street,London W1, date 1967.

Volume 3

Build-Up for Torch, General Giraud's Escape and The Political Landscape, by General Andre Beaufre, p 1196-1198, 1204

Mark Clark's Secret Landing, by Richard Livingstone, p 1199-1203

Operation Torch, by Captain Sir Basil Liddell Hart, p 1205-1223

Volume 4

War at the Top, The Tehran Conference, by A.J.P. Taylor, p 1597-1607

An Observer at Tehran, by George Greenfield, p 1608-1613

These may be available on disk in a library, or possibly in microfiche form.

Let me know how you get on.

Regards
Alan

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (131.174.208.196) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 01:35 am:

alan,

please remind me to mention your name at the 'i'd like to thank...' page of my assignment.... because this is just wonderful!

i have been looking around on the internet, but haven't found a site that could send me a copy of the issue/articles...only found websites like ebay that were auctioning part of the series...(unfortunately, volume 4 seems to be rare and also i think it takes too long)

did you know there's this real mystery about who got rid of the demo charges exactly? maybe you've heard of the name jan van hoof while you where in nijmegen? this resistance man is said to have helped the allies save the nijmegen bridge, however, no one can tell for sure because he got killed by the germans...if you'd like me to, i can try to find the story behind this...

because i feel i have to offer something in return for all this....i would very much like to read Lt. Greenfield's report and am also very interested in the articles you mentioned above that are in volume 4. i have tried the libraries at university, but they cannot provide me with copies of the articles...(i know, unbelievable!). so i am hoping it isn't too much trouble for you to send me copies of the articles via email? if this is not possible, i totally understand, of course...

i have opened an email address for you to maybe send them to: irenevrinte@yahoo.co.uk

thanks so much!

ps. " "You're leaving the sector of the 101st A/B and entering the sector of the 82nd A/B. So we're handing you over to the All-American. They're a good outfit but keep your hands on your wallets." "

yes, i know, hilarious! i just LOVE ABTF and have downloaded some of the music to play when i am walking the four days march...it should make me walk faster!

By Stephanie Ambroos (Freaky) (80.200.248.200) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 02:18 pm:

Hi Irene
it sure was a great documentary :D
Well I went to the libary yesterday and the title of the book is " hoe de oorlog is verdwenen" and a girl from Holland is one of the writers so. The first writer is a heinrich .... sorry but I forget his last name :oS well I hope it's a bite usefull.
bye and goodluck with your assigment ! :oD

Stephanie

By alan james o'reilly (Alanor) (62.254.64.5) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 02:58 pm:

Hi Irene

I'll sort out the articles either tomorrow or the w/e at the latest.

I'll have to post them to you snail mail if you can give me a postal address - a university department address would be fine of course if you have one.

Unfortunately my email to you bounced, I don't know why, unless your yahoo account isn't finalised yet. I'll try again tomorrow.

Mr Greenfield also wrote of his experiences at El Alamein - I'll send that for interest. It's very poignant, though of course "OT". My office colleague's uncle was in the same regiment, the Buffs, and he was lost at El Alamein.

Glad to help. These volumes have been sitting on my shelves for years. It's good to see them being put to use.

Very happy for you to research the bridge demolitions removal, out of interest.

About 20 years ago, I met the chap who led the Guards' tanks across, Sergeant Peter Robinson of the 2nd Grenadiers, quite a character and a "tearaway", to say the least, he was more like "Wild Bill", i.e. not like the major!

His mate, W/O Bill Croft had very many anecdotes of the Njmegen fighting. (Robinson took over Bill's troop the day before the crossing.) He'd also served in Normandy and went right on until VE Day. He said that after the Njmegen crossing, the 82nd A/B wanted to continue permanently with the Grenadiers as mechanised infantry.

Bill had some amusing anecdotes of when he joined the Guards in 1934. He tentatively approached the entrance of the depot, and was intercepted by a sentry. The conversation went as follows:

S. "Who are you!?"
Bill "Er - Croft."
S. "Where're y'from, Croft?"
Bill "Er - Stoke (on Trent)."
S. "I THOUGHT so! Follow me!"

He had another memory of when the officer on parade declared "Guardsman Croft, idle on parade, charge him, Sarn't Major!"

SM: "Er - Guardsman Croft's not on parade, sir."

Officer: "Charge him anyway, he's idle where ever he is!"

Sadly, Bill has since passed away but I think he and his mates would be very encouraged by the level of interest shown by this group and by many of the up and coming generation.

Regards
Alan

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (62.251.51.92) on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 12:56 am:

first: stephanie, thank you very much. the title should do, i'll stop by the library today! thanks for your help...

alan, i don't know why your email bounced...? it doesn't really matter anyway, i'll send you an email from my normal mailaddress right away! take your time sorting out the articles, i appreciate what you're doing so much! the assignment i described above is only part II of it, i can start working on part I (which is a bit more straightforward (not about WWII) and for which i have all the things i need)...

i have to hand in my writings July 3, and if you want me to i can send it to you as well?
i hope you'll let me work on "the bridge demolitions removal" for a couple of weeks? i've got three weeks of exams coming up but after that i've got plenty of time to really start digging!
also, nice of you to post some quotes and info on the Guards...it's always interesting to read about these men's lives.

regards,
irene

By alan james o'reilly (Alanor) (62.254.64.5) on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 05:39 pm:

Hi Irene

I think my other email got through OK when I simply replied. Can't see why that should make a difference but it has.

Trust you make good progress on part 1 of the assignment. If you have a copy, yes, I would be very interested to see it, also anything you find out about the Njmegen bridge demolitions.

Bill was quite a character. He served at Dunkirk, in North Africa and in NW Europe. Life in the pre-war Guards was very hard, indeed Spartan but they did the business in WW2 as the saying goes.

One of BIll's contemporaries in the Grenadiers was W/O1 John C. Lord, who was RSM of the 3rd Battalion of the Parachute Regiment and was wounded and captured at Arnhem. He virtually took command of the British POWs in Stalag XIB near Fallingbostel and proved a great inspiration to the inmates - and to the Germans.

After the war, RSM Lord was posted to Sandhurst as the Academy Sergeant Major. Major Tonie Holt, of Holt's Tours, remembers ASM Lord well and recounts the following incident. One of the cadets at the time was the late King Hussein of Jordan. During one parade, the inspecting officer noted a minute speck of fluff on Hussein's beret and declared "Cadet Hussein, fluff on beret!"

ASM Lord marched to the rear of the rank, halted behind Hussein and in a parade ground whisper, heard all over the ground, remarked:

"You are an idle little king, ain't you, your majesty."

Hussein made a special trip to the UK to participate in an episode of "This Was Your Life" featuring ASM Lord and again to attend ASM Lord's funeral in 1963.

Regards
Alan

By stephen stallebrass (Drstallebrass) (62.253.32.5) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 06:49 am:

Alan:

I read that document at:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/index.html.

and I have to say what a load of dribble! Yes its compelling but its totally one sided and the author is clearly Anti-American. Its actually no better than war propaganda.

I accept that its an alternative view that some people have and they are entiitled to it but I do want to ask this, do you agree with this school of thought?

Steve Stallebrass
England

By alan james o'reilly (Alanor) (62.254.64.5) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 08:02 am:

Steve

Thank you for your comments. However, I would point out that denial does not constitute refutation.

If you have any information that counters the material on the site, I'd be interested to see it. (May be better to forward OL.)

I don't believe it is anti-American to flush out 'insiders', whoever they may be, quite the reverse. Toland's work, referenced on the site, is extremely detailed. I can recommend another summary work that covers it and corroborates it from independent sources.

It is common knowledge, for example, that Admiral Kimmel was not kept informed of updates concerning the projected attack. I understand he was subsquently exonerated from failing to prepare against the attack.

Just because the content of a report may be unpalatable does not automatically mean it should be dismissed as mere propaganda.

Regards
Alan O'R

By stephen stallebrass (Drstallebrass) (62.253.32.5) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 10:48 am:

Alan:

I will correspond with you offline.

Steve Stallebrass
England

By Stephanie Ambroos (Freaky) (80.200.248.200) on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 03:45 pm:

Hi Irene
me again I found another book which can help you for some details I haven't read it yet so I can't give you an opinion but I like the title and I think it has something to do with your assigment the book is called "Dirty little secrets of WW2" and it's written by--> James Dunsigan and Albert Nofi .
Good luck with your exams I have my last one friday so :oD

Bye
Stephanie

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (193.172.46.82) on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 06:09 am:

mmm, that title sure sounds interesting! thanks for the info, again! i think i have enough information to write the assignment...i have to hand it in in 2 weeks and must be careful not be get an overload of info...

i am still working on the central hypothesis of the assignment, because it really must deal with the general topic of the course, i.e. american myths/ideals vs american reality.

i appreciate your contributions!

irene

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (131.174.208.76) on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:02 am:

just a couple of pics i took at the American cemetary in Margraten in the very south of Holland near Maastricht...

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (131.174.208.76) on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:37 am:

sorry something went wrong the first time...

Van Klinken

this is me...

in the front, major Horton's stone, behind that Dukeman's

regards,
irene

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:46 am:

wow. thanks for all those pics irene...

gold

By josh thomasin (Josh10506) (216.137.66.4) on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:51 am:

Hello - I am new to this site but very appreciative of those who set it up.

I just returned from Bastogne and Berchtesgarten this past Wednesday and have some great photos to post if you care to see them.

I spent two days touring the Eagles Nest and Lake Konigasse. After that I drove to Bastogne and spent a day there. While there I could not believe my luck. I got a little lost on the way to the American Memorial in Bastogne but once I got the right directions I paid a few euros to go into a museum they have close by.
When I walked into the museum I saw Henry "Hank" Zimmerman and his family. I was completely in awe. I spoke to him for about 15 minutes and he told me it was his first time back to Bastogne since the war. he said he had recently arrived and was going to head down to Berchtesgarten after Bastogne. He was more gracious than you can imagine and told me he has received letters from folks all over the world and how appreciative he was. He gave me specific directions to the "line" and after a few pictures and autographs we drove down to Noville to see the location. There are still indentations where the foxholes were. It was amazing. If you would like to see any of the pictures, I am happy to post them if someone will tell me how to do it.

In the center of Bastogne there is an american flag and an old Sherman tank. There is also a restuarant called le Nuts. Named after the famous "Nuts" remark.

By Marc Brand (Marcfire) (194.138.137.11) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:48 am:

Nice pics Irene, it's still a beautifull impressive site. I'll place my Bastogne pics this week.

By Tim Ross (Ghosthunter) (24.71.223.140) on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 08:04 am:

I heard rumors that behind the Eagle's Nest they are going to build a golf course with the building being the club house. Is it true??
Also, I have a friend that I work with who is going to Germany for a year, I cannot remember where he is going exactly but it is only a short drive from the Concentration camp that Easy discovered. To my knowledge the city he is staying at is where Easy was stationed.

By Susan Lentz (68.52.78.181) on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 11:17 pm:

josh, are you going to post your pictures?

By Stephanie Ambroos (Freaky) (80.200.248.205) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 04:19 pm:

hi josh,
They explain how to post your pics when you click in the menu at --> add Pictures :oD
Hope it'll work I would really like to see them

Stephanie

By Stephanie Ambroos (Freaky) (80.200.248.205) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 04:28 pm:

hi Irene,
First f all great pics,really :oD
And I was thinking,was your assigment ok, I really hope so

Bye stephanie

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (213.53.199.18) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 06:31 am:

hi stephanie

thanks.
yes my assignment was 'very OK'. i got an A+ ('10' in dutch)
eventually i decided on the topic 'myth & reality: african american soldiers in the US Army during WW2'.

irene

By Marc Brand (Marcfire) (62.59.236.10) on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:20 am:

Here are some of my Bastogne pics:

The Mardasson Monument, which is Belgiums ode to the American soldiers:

By Marc Brand (Marcfire) (62.59.236.10) on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:40 am:

Well that didn't work, i'll try again later. I don't know what i did wrong.

By Marc Brand (Marcfire) (62.59.236.10) on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 08:58 am:

Can anyone help me posting some pictures. I filled in the text: \image and right behind it the {signs}, but i do not get prompted to upload my pics when i click post/preview. The reult is this:

my picture

By Derek D. Tircuit (Dtircuit) (68.105.8.183) on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 10:20 am:

http://www.tircuit.com/bandofbrothers/board-formatting.html#images

Your browser must support form-based file upload (Netscape Navigator 2.0+ and Internet Explorer 4.0+ support this; IE 3.02 will also work provided that you have installed the file upload patch).

By Sergeant First Class Danny Autrey (Retiredarmy) (198.36.178.141) on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:56 am:

Tim: re the golf course. There is already a golf course up on the Obersaltzberg. The Army built one to go with the General Sheridan Hotel, which was in the old SS building up near Hitler's Berghof. The course is up and down the side of the mountain. As for a golf course up at the actual Eagle's Nest, I think that is impossible. I have been up there a couple of times and it is on the top of the ridge of the mountain and there is very very little ground around there, just rocks and the mountain. It was would be extremely difficult to build a golf course up there and I find it funny anyone would want to. Since the Army has given back to the Germans most of the former Army hotels in Bavaria, I guess they gave this golf course to the Germans also.

By Marc Brand (Marcfire) (62.59.236.10) on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 01:39 pm:

hey Derek,

I tried everything i could, all the other tags are working just fine (color and bold..). But with the images, i just keep getting the 'your image here'.

How can i check if my browser support form-based file uploads?

Marc

By Tim Ross (Ghosthunter) (24.71.223.140) on Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 07:51 pm:

At any time did American paratroops (mostly 101st) wear camoflaged jackets? I know the British 6th division used them (during operation Market-Garden I know they did). Can anyone help, ASAP, its towards this years halloween costume.

By steve lundy (Breechblock) (216.209.141.21) on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 09:52 pm:

Tim,
The only allied Paratroops to wear camo in Normandy were the British and Canadians. The reason for the U.S. troops not wearing their own pattern of camo was it was to similar to the German pattern.
Hope that helps.
Steve L.

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By boddrotxebb (212.235.107.87) on Saturday, September 18, 2010 - 09:06 am:

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By bollotxtenxx (212.235.107.87) on Saturday, September 18, 2010 - 08:31 pm:

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By bydertskdqx (212.235.107.87) on Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 01:57 pm:

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By canrxcurqalp (212.235.107.87) on Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 07:19 pm:

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By caproterqsxd (212.235.107.87) on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 07:14 pm:

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By cardoxxqsewqq (212.235.107.87) on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 12:54 am:

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By carsxentrfukl (212.235.107.87) on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 12:51 am:

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By cirdertndsho (212.235.107.87) on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 03:14 pm:

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By citrxoqwsgbxxc (212.235.107.87) on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:52 pm:

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By clarqsxcwerlo (212.235.107.87) on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 10:57 am:

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By LosGooclorreni (95.71.96.155) on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 04:57 pm:

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By cleygrtqwshqq (212.235.107.87) on Friday, September 24, 2010 - 01:57 pm:

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By clobbrexqqa (212.235.107.87) on Friday, September 24, 2010 - 09:22 pm:

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By cluwqxzqws (212.235.107.87) on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 06:58 am:

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By coqwerzxslq (212.235.107.87) on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 09:38 pm:

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By cothqxsoplxq (212.235.107.87) on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 08:34 am:

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By crogqwezvx (212.235.107.87) on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 10:55 pm:

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By MovMasyImmatry2 (95.71.102.190) on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 02:28 am:

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By curqxawsxopl (212.235.107.87) on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 04:35 pm:

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By cusqwezamk (212.235.107.87) on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 04:44 am:

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By cutreqwsdlxx (212.235.107.87) on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 10:02 am:

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By PolSleetrallq (95.71.69.58) on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 12:37 am:

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By PolSleetrallq (95.71.69.58) on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 08:53 am:

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By LIUItarnenerws (95.71.103.143) on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 04:45 pm:

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By LIUItarnenerws (95.71.103.143) on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 11:21 pm:

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By danrqderkiax (212.235.107.87) on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 11:37 am:

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By datrveqwxcvr (212.235.107.87) on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 06:56 pm:

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By Dolweinacrarmaq (95.71.98.120) on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 02:11 am:

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By dechxcqyrjfl (212.235.107.87) on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 08:05 pm:

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By HorrorEscogsgew (109.62.166.73) on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 08:20 pm:

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By HorrorEscogsgew (109.62.166.73) on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 07:08 am:

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By depruyqsxcfrt (212.235.107.87) on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 05:49 pm:

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By derrxsqwasx (212.235.107.87) on Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 04:00 pm:

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By Vacenhachhip2 (95.71.98.75) on Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 05:52 pm:

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By Vacenhachhip2 (95.71.98.75) on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 12:02 am:

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By alkawisaluaps (188.72.216.32) on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 09:47 am:

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By deuafsgwxcvb (212.235.107.87) on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 02:29 pm:

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By StreetDance (109.62.161.173) on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 04:24 pm:

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By StreetDance (109.62.161.173) on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 12:21 am:

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