By Dave (Dave) (24.131.20.240 - 24.131.20.240) on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 04:57 pm:

I think this was the best Band of Brothers yet. I thought that they perfectly showed the Speirs running across the Germans scene. They really showed how you could lose a friend so easily, and how close you could be to losing yourself.

By Axeblood (Axeblood) (198.109.216.143 - 198.109.216.143) on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 01:03 am:

so far this is one of my favorites espoides as of yet int the way thewya they show the connection all of these men had and how in war you just know the man the have to lead you is not the man to do it this also shows the hidden but harsh reality of some of the memories that will live with you for the rest of your life prime example lieutenant compton he just couldnt face it anymore when he saw joe and gonnere laying there he ahd seen too much and could not handle it i also like how it kinda showed the underwritten part that your non commissioned officers really run the troops and keeps morals up

By Barret Roosa (Barroosa) (209.214.19.201 - 209.214.19.201) on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 08:33 pm:

My VCR wasn't set correctly so my husband and I missed this episode. Does anyone know if HBO is planning on running another block of episodes like they did with 1 through 5? Or if, HBO will be showing BAND OF BROTHERS in a 10 hour block?

By JANE SEABURG (Jane) (195.93.34.151 - 195.93.34.151) on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 09:19 am:

I saw episode 7 Friday night, and WOW, didn't they take some punishment!...I was amazed to see the scene where Speirs ran SO close to those Germans and not get shot, I guess they must have been taken by surprise like the rest of us!!..But
did it REALLY happen like that?...What a living legend he IS!
also...in the episode Damian Lewis looked extremely cold to say the least but Shane Taylor still had his jacket on whereas everyone else had overcoats on, does this man not fear the cold OR
danger?...or did Medics not wear overcoats?? (I know its a daft question but I was just curious)
Take care, love from:
Jane

By JANE SEABURG (Jane) (195.93.49.183 - 195.93.49.183) on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 12:54 pm:

REALLY SORRY, I messed up with the above message didn't I!! regarding Shane Taylor and the jacket, I meant it to say..'DID this man not fear the cold or danager' as in did Eugene actually just wear the jacket and not a thicker coat and saving lives inspite of danger to himself,
I hope I didnt offend you. I'm sorry.
Jane

By Alexis Tin (Lexie_Uk) (195.92.168.163 - 195.92.168.163) on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 01:15 pm:

This series just get's better and better. I even found myself shaking when the bombardment was going on. It is so involving. I thought it was very sad at the end when they were in the church and the people who had been killed or sent home disapeared faded away. Also theres only 3 more episodes in the UK left now.

By Nick Psaki (Oldbull) (64.128.185.225 - 64.128.185.225) on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 10:12 am:

I'm looking for a vid cap of the scene where Lt. Speirs is jumping through the smoke of an explosion as he runs across the field to join Easy Co. outside of Foy...

By jan dawn doronila (Potatomasher) (202.78.97.12) on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 04:02 am:

hi,
Does anybody know the lyrics of the song Plaisir
l' Amour? Is itFrench or Italian? I love the song very much because it evokes a feeling of resolution and rest for Easy company who, in the earlier part of the seventh series was being bombarded by artillery fire. Any help is appreciated.

By JANE Southern England (Jane) (195.93.50.176) on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 06:40 am:

Hi... the lyrics as follows:

"Plaisir d' amour ne dure qu un moment
Chagrin d amour dure toute la vie
J ai tout quttee pur I ingrate Silvie
Elle me quitte et prend un aute amans
Plaisir d' amour dure qu un moment
Chagrin D amour dudre toute le vie
"Tant que cette eau coulera doucement
Vers ce ruisseau qui borde la prairie
Je t aimerai"' me repetait Silvie
L'eau coule encor, elle a change pourtant
Plaisir d' amour ne dure qu un moment
Chagrin d' amour dudre toute la vie"

and the translation to English

"Pleasure of love lasts only one moment
Unhappy love affair lasts all the life
I very left for ungrateful Silvie
It leaves and takes another to love me
Pleasure of love lasts only one moment
Unhappy love affair lasts all the life
"As long as this water will run gently
towards this brook which borders the meadow
I will love you", repeated Silvie to me
Waters runs still, it changed however.
Pleasure of love lasts only one moment
Unhappy love affair lasts all the life"

..and here endeth your French lesson for today!!!
You'll notice that once it's been translated it kinda looses the 'feeling'..But I hope I've helped


Jane. S.

By jan dawn doronila (Potatomasher) (202.78.97.12) on Tuesday, June 04, 2002 - 03:55 am:

hi,

Thanks jane for the petit french lesson! In the past days I made a hard time digging into old songbooks from my school's library collection but found nothing of the lyrics. And for the second time thanks a million!

jan dawn
xx

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (131.174.220.175) on Tuesday, June 04, 2002 - 04:23 am:

hi guys
did you know the song (actually i think it was a poem before) is from 1775????
and that it was originally written in latin?

irene

By Jane Lindholm (Jlindholm) (204.48.169.252) on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 06:58 pm:

Capt. Lewis Nixon played by Ron Livingston



Capt. Dick Winters played by Damian Lewis



The officers discuss the matter of leadership for Easy Company

By Jane Lindholm (Jlindholm) (204.48.169.252) on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 07:04 pm:

Compton checking on Guarnere and Heffron



Bill Guarnere laughs at Compton’s threat to kill him if he does something stupid



Babe senses Buck isn’t the same since being wounded in Holland

By Jane Lindholm (Jlindholm) (204.48.169.252) on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 07:10 pm:

The reason I tuned into BOB to begin with, Jamie Bamber. Clearly, I was not pleased to see he got bout 7 mins in this 10 hour epic.

Jane

By Cameron Ross (Hedge) (216.221.81.99) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:56 am:

I have a question for anyone who knows anything about medical practice or surgery: How come Hoobler dies within say 5-10 minutes becuase his main artery is cut and he bleeds to death, yet Joe Toye lies there for quite a while with no leg and yet he doesn't bleed to death??...

By Ebeth (Ebeth) (199.174.65.27) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:09 pm:

I don't know very much about battlefield wounds, but I have read that getting hit by shrapnel can effectively cauterize the wound simply by the heat of the fragments. Perhaps this happened to Toye?

By homefront41 (Homefront41) (198.81.26.142) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:58 pm:

They were able to tie off Toye's and Guarnere's wounds to stop the loss of blood, whereas Hoobler's wound was different. The gunshot severed the main artery at the top of his leg and he bled out on the ground there because it was impossible to get to that bleeder in time. I have read a post by someone in medicine who surmised that the elastic artery might have snapped up into the stomach cavity, making it impossible in those conditions to secure it to prevent blood loss. BK

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (62.251.0.22) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 04:43 pm:

right.

irene, former med student

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.170.2.77) on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 01:38 am:

Hmm...i haven't really thought about that. Thanks for asking and answering the question guys.

gold

By Cameron Ross (Hedge) (216.221.81.98) on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 12:11 am:

A couple of detail questions about this episode:
1. Who was left with D Company when the rest of E went back to overlook Foy, Christenson and is it Malarkey or Perconte?, (he's brushing his teeth when Speirs comes and talks to them) I thought it was Malarkey but then of course he's with E during the shellings.

2. Who got hit in the shoulder by shrapnel and calls the medic right before the dud shell lands in Lipton's fox hole?

3. Was Ramirez killed by the sniper?

4. A more general question: It says that they were in the woods outside Foy for the better part of a month. Obviously the episode can only show a few days worth of that. What would happen in between? Would there be days with no action, or would there likely be shelling everyday?

By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (131.174.208.173) on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 03:08 am:

brushing his teeth? that MUST be Perco, then!

irene

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.170.2.83) on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 09:10 am:

The three guys who were left behind with D Company to watch the line were Christenson, Perconte and a replacement, Ken Webb. Hashey got hit in the shoulder and Shifty picked him up. It wasn't Ramirez who got shot my the sniper, there were 4 people who got shot by the sniper in Foy, namely Mellet, Heron, Sowasko and Ken Webb. Perhaps, some of the days there were more shellings and perhaps some of those days were spent without action.
Hope that helped...

gold

By Cesar Elias Sanjur III (Cesare) (200.46.128.91) on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 06:06 pm:

Hello, people!

On regard of the casualties of Easy Company, I recommend you to purchase (if you still can) the World War II special issue about the miniseries. It has a full list of all the men who served in the company from 1942 to 1945, and also a list of all the KIAs. Of course, I also recommend the book by Stephen Ambrose. The book states that Hoobler didn't die in the front line but died almost an hour afterwards he wounded himself (almost reaching the field hospital).

Regards,

Cesare

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 08:36 am:

Wasn't that what Lipton said "by the time we got him to the aid station, he was already dead..." poor Hoobler

gold

By Penil Chhiba (Penil) (80.225.3.66) on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 03:09 pm:

Hi, this is my first post on this very informative website.
Episode 7 is by far my favourite episode of the ten in this series. We see the very best in special effects (the exploding trees, Foy battle scenes etc), excellent acting and a moving storyline, which portrays the very best examples of the contrasting emotions which humans show in warfare (e.g. the contrast between Spiers and Dike in the battle for Foy). We also get some idea of what the death or horrific injury to a well known individual must be like. After becoming familiar with the characters or Muck, Penkala and Hoobler etc through the series, the sudden and brutal nature of their deaths is a great shock, which is what in my opinion makes this episode stand out from the rest.
I have one question which I would like to ask. This episode appears to be the only time we see 3rd platoon and their commander Shames. Does anyone know why there was not so much focus on 3rd Platoon throughout the series?

By Penil Chhiba (Penil) (80.225.3.66) on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 03:11 pm:

Hi, this is my first post on this very informative website.
Episode 7 is by far my favourite episode of the ten in this series. We see the very best in special effects (the exploding trees, Foy battle scenes etc), excellent acting and a moving storyline, which portrays the very best examples of the contrasting emotions which humans show in warfare (e.g. the contrast between Spiers and Dike in the battle for Foy). We also get some idea of what the death or horrific injury to a well known individual must be like. After becoming familiar with the characters or Muck, Penkala and Hoobler etc through the series, the sudden and brutal nature of their deaths is a great shock, which is what in my opinion makes this episode stand out from the rest.
I have one question which I would like to ask. This episode appears to be the only time we see 3rd platoon and their commander Shames. Does anyone know why there was not so much focus on 3rd Platoon throughout the series?

By Penil Chhiba (Penil) (62.64.135.175) on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 03:17 pm:

Hi, this is my first post on this very informative website.
Episode 7 is by far my favourite episode of the ten in this series. We see the very best in special effects (the exploding trees, Foy battle scenes etc), excellent acting and a moving storyline, which portrays the very best examples of the contrasting emotions which humans show in warfare (e.g. the contrast between Spiers and Dike in the battle for Foy). We also get some idea of what the death or horrific injury to a well known individual must be like. After becoming familiar with the characters or Muck, Penkala and Hoobler etc through the series, the sudden and brutal nature of their deaths is a great shock, which is what in my opinion makes this episode stand out from the rest.
I have one question which I would like to ask. This episode appears to be the only time we see 3rd platoon and their commander Shames. Does anyone know why there was not so much focus on 3rd Platoon throughout the series?

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 01:06 am:

Welcome Chenil, very nice choice. Ep 7 is one of my faves too. As for your question about 3rd platoon, i have no idea. Do enjoy the site

gold

By Melissa Clay (Melissa2800) (66.166.47.71) on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 10:00 am:

Welcome Penil!!!
My guess would be that the series only had so much time. They had 10 hours to show different sides of the war plus give you time to know certain characters - there was not enough time to show each platoon. There is alot of information that was not shown in the series but it is in the book.
If you have a chance to read it, please do. It explains alot of what happened in greater detail.
JMHO
Melissa

By Penil Chhiba (Penil) (80.225.25.240) on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 03:22 pm:

Hi Melissa and Gold
I managed to borrow the book from my History teacher just before Christmas last year and it certainly does explain a lot more about the events from the series. Unfortunately I've forgotten most of the information from the book lol, but I will be ordering a copy for myself soon .

By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.160) on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 04:20 pm:

Welcome Penil!
I like ep.7 too. It was really sad because of these men who died but also every way great, especially i liked becoming familiar with Speirs and Donnie's acting as Lip
Yeah, they propably didn't have time to show 3rd platoon...i think it might have been insulting to some vets that they didn't show all of them in BoB, even though they are as heroes as main charachters in BoB are.

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 04:49 pm:

Penil, hope you get the book soon, it's all worth it

gold

By Wicus Eksteen (Rsa101e) (168.209.98.67) on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 04:37 am:

Hi all,

In this episode the guy with the camera asks Toye
how he felt about being rescued by patton, or someone. Did it show in the series what happened, i cant remember.

Wicus

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 08:00 am:

Wicus, nope it wasn't shown in the series but it was mentioned in the book

gold

By Wicus Eksteen (Rsa101e) (168.209.98.67) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 03:29 am:

Thanks Gold, do you know off hand what happened,
for i have borrowed my book to a friend, I just know that Toye was p*$sed off about that.

Thanks Wicus

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 08:22 am:

Umm...not exactly, i'll check the book again. All i can remember is that Patton "rescued" them, which none of the 101st ever agreed they needed the "rescuing", and perhaps during that time, Toye got hit in the arm, "new years' eve gift from the lufwaffe (sp?)"

gold

By Penil Chhiba (Penil) (80.225.0.53) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 05:24 pm:

Luftwaffe , they probably never needed to be rescued anyway for the German 'Wacht am Rhein' advance had been pretty much halted and they had no real reinforcements due to the deteriorating situation they faced.

By Wicus Eksteen (Rsa101e) (168.209.98.67) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 05:41 am:

Man I really need to get my book back, for I cant remember this. the only patton i know is genl patton, but can it be him?
Man i am very curious. but thanks for the help i love speaking to Easy fans.

Wic

By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 08:20 am:

That's the same Patton wicus, but oh yeah, you need to get your book back ;)

gold

By Olivia Howley (Olivia) (159.134.56.184) on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 03:55 pm:

General Patton commanded Third Army. They were farther north when the German's broke through the Ardennes. All the available divisions were rushed to the Ardennes to stop the advance. The 101st were sent to hold Bastogne as it was so important to both sides, due to the amonunt of roads leading in and out of the town. As the 101st took their positions, the Germans outflanked them and continued on west leaving a pocket of Americans in and around Bastogne which was surrounded. Supplies couldnt be brought in as the roads were cut of from the American lines. Also supplies couldn't be dropped by planes as the weather was too bad. The 101st held the position without the supplies. Patton's Third Army were sent form their position up north to push the German's back and get to the troops in Bastogne. A big deal was made about it in the media as it said Patton "rescued" the 101st. They did need supplies and obviously the line had to be pushed back but the 101st held the position under extrordinarily difficult circustances. That's why Toye said they didn't need to be rescued - probably because it implied that they were in peril. It also took a bit of attention away from the 101st heroic defence of Bastogne.

I was in Bastogne last summer. The surrounding countryside is amazing. So much forest with these big highways running up and down the valleys with the forest on either side. I went to the Mardasson monument and the museum. The monument wasn't great but the museum was unbelievable. They had uniforms and equipment form every rank and army/airforce staff - nurses, doctors, airforce, airbourne - with parachutes, officers, privates,infantry, artillery, tanks. Also had the same for the Germans. Wow!
And.... they had stuff from the series and from the original Easy company. They had Major. Winters uniform. They had his notebook with names and adresses of family members, so he could write them if they got killed. They were written by the men, as the handwriting was all different. I read Sgt Guarere's. It gave the address and his mothers name and a note to have someone call a certain neighbour or relative. Amazing! Also there was the top bit of a reserve shute that all the men had signed.

The stuff from the series was cool too. There were polaroids from the set. Cast call/rotas i.e who need to be on set on what day and what they had to wear. There were replica guns and grenades.
I'm telling you I have never been so excited.
There was the sign for the town of Bastogne with bullet holes in it and 101st flags with the screaming eagle on it. There were K rations and the letter Gen McAuliffe wrote the troops on Christmas Day 1944 with the "NUTS" statement.
It's a must see place for any Band of Brothers fan. If I was interested in the show before I was even more so after I visited Bastogne. I saw the church that was bombed. I will put up my pictures soon if anyone wants to see them. Unfortunetly you cant take pictures in the museum but I took a sneaky one without a flash of the Screaming Eagles flag and the road sign.
Sorry about the length of the post
Liv

By charles brussee (Bobtail) (213.17.77.139) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 04:22 am:

Olivia,

Why sorry for the lenght of the post????. This is interesting information. Not a tiener who thinks that is was all wonderful. Thanks for sharing this.


Greetings Charles

By alan james o'reilly (Alanor) (62.254.64.6) on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 07:19 pm:

I think Sergeant Toye and others of the 101st A/B would have taken issue with the following. The full statement can be found on the accompanying web site.

Regards
Alan O'R
______________________________________________

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/A1948214

During the so-called 'Battle of the Bulge' when news came through that the American 101st Airborne Division was surrounded and trapped in Bastogne it was the 761 Tank Regiment that led the counter-attack to punch a hole in the German's 'ring of steel' and suffered heavy casualties but, because it was considered inappropriate for an elite all-white American Airborne Division to be rescued by, what was seen as a lowly coloured American outfit, their valient role went unrecorded.
_____________________________________________

By Debbie (Dogpower) (165.21.154.17) on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 03:46 am:

Um... just a question.... Why was Shifty wearing a white helmet whereas everyone else got the regular ones? Is it because he's a sharpshooter/sniper or something?

By Bradley Peterson (Brad) (140.254.79.199) on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:49 am:

Debbie, it was a white helmet cover for camouflage in the snow. Troops got them whenever they could; in fact, there were complaints from Belgians that troops were stealing bed linens (which they made into camouflage), and they were doing this because the supply situation was so poor (remember, they didn't get their "snow pacs" (winter boots) till Haguenau, which was early March or thereabouts. I would guess you're right, Shifty got one because he was a sharpshooter.

By Bradley Peterson (Brad) (140.254.79.199) on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:54 am:

Debbie, it was a white helmet cover for camouflage in the snow. Troops got them whenever they could; in fact, there were complaints from Belgians that troops were stealing bed linens (which they made into camouflage), and they were doing this because the supply situation was so poor (remember, they didn't get their "snow pacs" (winter boots) till Haguenau, which was early March or thereabouts. I would guess you're right, Shifty got one because he was a sharpshooter.

By Bradley Peterson (Brad) (140.254.79.199) on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:59 am:

Debbie, it was a white helmet cover for camouflage in the snow. Troops got them whenever they could; in fact, there were complaints from Belgians that troops were stealing bed linens (which they made into camouflage), and they were doing this because the supply situation was so poor (remember, they didn't get their "snow pacs" (winter boots) till Haguenau, which was early March or thereabouts. I would guess you're right, Shifty got one because he was a sharpshooter.

By Bradley Peterson (Brad) (140.254.79.199) on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 10:04 am:

Debbie, it was a white helmet cover for camouflage in the snow. Troops got them whenever they could; in fact, there were complaints from Belgians that troops were stealing bed linens (which they made into camouflage), and they were doing this because the supply situation was so poor (remember, they didn't get their "snow pacs" (winter boots) till Haguenau, which was early March or thereabouts. I would guess you're right, Shifty got one because he was a sharpshooter.

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