By Anonymous on Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 01:02 pm:| By Anonymous on Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 01:02 pm: |
This is called "Points" See the new Vanity Fair for the complete list of episodes and their asir dates...
| By Tom E. on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 05:08 pm: |
I visited the Eagle's Nest last October and spoke to an english-speaking tour guide about BOB. Hanks had visited the area around March ans was seeking permission to build a facade of the Berghof, Hitler's home below the Eagle's Nest. The Bavarian government refused his request, hence the filming in Switzerland. The guide aslo sais that Hanks toured soem bunkers recently opened to the public and fell and separated his shoulder, causing a stir in this quiet, little town.
| By adam don scanlon (Adamscanlon) (212.67.108.104 - 212.67.108.104) on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 02:31 pm: |
band of brothers is amazing and a credit 2 the actors of it and the producers the graphics ans plot are amazing and historical.i cant wait until the episode
| By Chase Prescott (Chasey666) (152.163.207.194 - 152.163.207.194) on Friday, November 23, 2001 - 08:31 pm: |
I really enjoyed the whole series and this episode but there was one thing i was dissappointed in. At the end it told us what happened to each of the members of Easy Company but left out Malarkey, Gurnere, Toye and other surviving memebers. But anyway. Bravo to all the cast and crew and thank you to all the real men of Easy Company
| By Michael Toye (Miketoye) (64.12.104.174 - 64.12.104.174) on Friday, November 23, 2001 - 09:55 pm: |
Yes I also was a little disappointed in how the producers only told what happened to everyone that survived the whole war...they should have done it for most or all of them, no matter how hard that would be. It would have been a great tribute to all of the men. Also, they left out some soldiers that made it all the way through, including Babe Heffron, and i think Malarky made it through...he was just ill and in the hospital when they captured the Eagle's Nest. I may be wrong.
| By Lillian Cherith Elliot (Lillian) (63.226.148.140 - 63.226.148.140) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 07:13 pm: |
ABSOLUTELY!!! I was actually very suprised that they left out Malarkey and Guarnere! I was mad too, becuase they were my favorite non-coms in the beginning of the series. I was amazed that they summed up some of the people we'd only just "met", but left out the others.
Pretty much my ONLY complaint with the series though, I suppose that's not too bad!
| By Katie (Katie) (141.155.7.210 - 141.155.7.210) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 11:42 pm: |
If you recall, Malarkey had been sent to Paris and Guarnere had been injured and evac'ed quite a while beforehand. I suppose they had limited time and thus only had Winters' comment on the ones who were shown at the baseball game. Of course, by rights, that should have included Babe Heffron since he is shown in the circle when Winters announces the end of the war. Guarnere, Malarkey and Heffron were all in the closing sequence with the real vets so I suppose that is some compensation. Perhaps there was more taped and it will appear on that much-longed-for DVD when it finally surfaces.
| By JANE Southern England (Jane) (195.93.32.158 - 195.93.32.158) on Friday, November 30, 2001 - 04:17 pm: |
Just seen episode ten and I'm still crying!!!!!!!
...Then the announcement 'Over on BBC Knowledge you can see the making of Band of Brothers now.."
I cant get that chanel (I live out in the sticks!)
Was this aired in America?, I sure hope it gets repeated!
I'm a bit too emotional to carry on now..........
Jane
| By Alexis T (Lexie_Uk) (195.92.194.14 - 195.92.194.14) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 03:47 am: |
It's so sad that it's over. Friday nights will never be the same again. I'm not ashamed to admit i had a little cry (well i am a bit soft after all). I'm so glad i watched it and read the book, it's inspired me to do lot's of things. Medic Eugene Roe has made me want to go out and help people, so next week i'm donating blood for the first time (which is big for me cos i don't like needles). It's cool how a bunch of guy's from way back can inspire and become hero's to girl thousands of miles away in a different country, who until 10 weeks ago didn't really know anything about the american airbourne (or about the british airbourne for that matter) but has started reading about them now.
It's been the best mini-series i have ever seen!
I can't wait for the documentary next week!
And even though it's finished over here i'm still definatly gonna visit this site!
Lex
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| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (64.157.114.40 - 64.157.114.40) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 03:57 am: |
Lex,
You'll enjoy the doucmentary! One of the goals of this site is to inspire our generation to learn what was sacrificed and also motivate us to do our part and help. Glad you are answering the call!!
Thanks for visiting and we will keep adding to this site and hope you do continue to visit.
Thanks!
Chris
| By Paul Aling (Bull) (195.92.168.171 - 195.92.168.171) on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 05:34 pm: |
Jane,
I can tape you a copy of the making of documentary if you send me a tape! It's only 30 minutes long but it's still good.
Paul
| By Alexis T (Lexie_Uk) (195.92.194.13 - 195.92.194.13) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 11:51 am: |
Hi Chris,
u were right, i did enjoy the documentary. It was the best way the finish of the series. It was nice to see the real people and hear their story in their own voices, behind the names who we've read about and watched someone else telling their story. I think heroism comes from people, who after all they have done are insistant that they aren't hero's and of course heroism shines from those who did not return.
Are there any other good book's about easy company out there?
Lex
xxx
| By JANE Southern England (Jane) (195.93.33.154 - 195.93.33.154) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 02:49 pm: |
Paul,
Thanks very much for the offer of tapeing the "making of...", its very sweet of you.
I'm hopeing that when they re-run the series in the Spring they'll include it on a 'proper' chanel
you never know!!!!!
thanks again
Jane
| By Paul Aling (Bull) (195.92.168.163 - 195.92.168.163) on Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 07:38 am: |
Jane,
I hope they do as well. It might even be on the video/dvd when they release it....next winter......Wahhhhh!
Paul
| By Alexis T (Lexie_Uk) (195.92.168.164 - 195.92.168.164) on Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 12:45 pm: |
Jane and paul,
I e-mailed the bbc (like u do) to see if they were going to repeat the 'making of band of brothers' on normal tv, they said they had no plans to. Boo-hoo!
So it looks like we'll have to wait till next year - i share ur wahhhhh!
Lex
xxx
| By JANE Southern England (Jane) (195.93.32.152 - 195.93.32.152) on Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 03:33 pm: |
Hi Lex..../Everyone/...Anyone!,
Just thought I'd better post this...I can't remember where I read it, but the 'Making of..'
is being repeated on 29th Dec, on....yes you
guessed it....BBC KNOWLEDGE!!!!!!
lots of love,
Jane
P.S. Someone did mention a website address you can download it from but it takes ages to do, n'
if I did that, everyone would be a bit miffed
round here(home)!!!
| By Derek D. Tircuit (Dtircuit) (24.8.242.153 - 24.8.242.153) on Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 06:21 pm: |
Jane, I'd be VERY interested in downloading it, and have a connection speed that won't quit.
Can you email me off board (tircuit@home.com) and let me know where to go?
Thanks!
Derek
| By Derek D. Tircuit (Dtircuit) (24.8.242.153 - 24.8.242.153) on Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 02:03 am: |
Jane, I'd be VERY interested in downloading it, and have a connection speed that won't quit.
Can you email me off board (tircuit@home.com) and let me know where to go?
Thanks!
Derek
| By Jennifer Nelson (Jenelson) (208.241.47.165 - 208.241.47.165) on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 10:15 am: |
Jane,
I also would be very interested to download 'the making of.' If you've still got the link, could you send it to me at jennifer_nelson@bmc.com?
Thanks so much!
-Jen
| By Derek D. Tircuit (Dtircuit) (65.81.244.11 - 65.81.244.11) on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 10:38 am: |
Hey, Jen, Jane, et. al., When I get it downloaded, I'll figure a way to post it here.
Later,
Derek
| By robyn (Robyn) (64.231.13.51 - 64.231.13.51) on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 01:19 pm: |
Hi. I think that would be a great addition. I would love to see that, as I am sure many who have not would also. I will watch for that. I hope you will be able to post it. Want to pass on Christmas wishes to all!!
| By JANE Southern England (Jane) (195.93.32.153 - 195.93.32.153) on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 03:03 pm: |
Derek -
Excellent idea! Looking forward to it
Jane
| By Angela Hmmm (Bob3) (209.255.54.88 - 209.255.54.88) on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 06:24 pm: |
i wish it would come out on dvd already...it is going to stink wating like a year!
| By Angela Hmmm (Bob3) (209.255.54.88 - 209.255.54.88) on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 06:26 pm: |
My favorite episodes are Episode 6 and Episode 7 (I believe) I liked how in the end of 7 (i believe, again hehe) they showed like people dissapearing from the church (i accidently wrote jerk instead of church there lol) who had been wounded or killed. just thought id share that with ya..
| By Angela Hmmm (Bob3) (209.255.54.88 - 209.255.54.88) on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 06:28 pm: |
Sorry to be writing so much, but if anyone knows when they'll show "re runs" on HBO could you email me (chickenmeat3@hotmail.com) thanks!
| By Angela Hmmm (Bob3) (209.255.54.88 - 209.255.54.88) on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 06:30 pm: |
im getting annoying i know..but alex is like me! only with some other people from the war...lol...although i wont donate blood...yet cuz im not old enough! well, sorry, bye bye better leave the boards before i can do anymore damage
| By nina rose berden (Schyler) (192.169.39.69 - 192.169.39.69) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 09:48 am: |
can't believe this is the last episode for BoB...very touching...almost made me cry the way Lewis did the voice-over on what happened to the men after the war, with them playing baseball and having fun...i'm going to miss them...
| By Anna Hinsull (Annahinsull) (80.225.33.83 - 80.225.33.83) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 09:56 am: |
I loved this episode,
I cried for half an hour after the last scene.Whitch is unusual for me as im only 14 and dont get emotional very often. because it was the only one i had on video when i was ill off school the week after i watched it 7 times!!!
Anna
| By Alexandra Rajpold (Skylar) (217.113.225.229) on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 03:20 pm: |
Finnally!
Well,I'm here for the first time,I'm from Poland where "Band of Brothers" had just finished on HBO.I think It's the best thing I've ever seen(really).I miss Easy Company a lot,and I hope that some of You is getting through the same problems as I do .
| By Anita ten Kate (Anita) (213.51.6.186) on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 02:03 pm: |
Hello Alexandra. Hope you read this. I'm new here to. Yesterday I saw the last episode and I really miss them. Nobody here understands it and think I'm overreacting. It is nice to read that I'm not the onlyone who misses them and feels like I do
| By Alexandra Rajpold (Skylar) (217.113.225.230) on Friday, March 29, 2002 - 12:38 pm: |
Thank You Anita!I've just read your message and I felt like the happiest girl on Earth-I'm not alone!!!It's been 2 months without "Band of Brothers",and I was getting depressed,when I saw an information in newspaper.It was said that Polish HBO will repeat whole series again in April!!!You don't even know how much "BOB" means for me.In June I'm going to Military Academy of Medical Sciences in Warsaw,and then who knows...maybe I'll be like Medic Eugene Roe...
| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (12.239.86.117) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 08:20 pm: |
| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (12.239.86.117) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 08:25 pm: |
Hitler's Eagle's Nest, Berchtesgarden, Bavaria, Germany. 20 May 1945.
| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (12.239.86.117) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 08:34 pm: |
This tunnel leads to a solid brass elevator which goes up through solid rock to Adolph Hitler's Eagles Nest above.
Photo courtesy of Paul Hester
| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (12.239.86.117) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 12:09 pm: |
Hotel in Bertchesgaden. During WWII, it was taken over by the Nazis. Adolph Hitler stayed here many times.
Photo and text courtesy of Paul Hester
| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (12.239.86.117) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 12:12 pm: |
Typical house in Bertchesgaden.
Photo and text courtesy of Paul Hester
| By Jane Lindholm (Jlindholm) (204.48.169.252) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 11:34 pm: |
Chris,
Marvelous, just marvelous. These are breath taking. Please convey our appreciation to Paul. Thanks
Jane
| By SYL (Wings) (200.27.153.170) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 03:49 pm: |
this is my favorite episode
the music and the breathtaking scenary
along with the good acting
delivered in my opinion one of the best episodes of the series
i have one question for i haven`t read the book yet
(let`s call it for mere geographical isolation reasons)
Shifty is picked up to go back to the states
but why him? it`s obvious that the officers had chose him but i`d like to know the reason
anyone knows?
| By Ilja Buschman (Bobandluzfan) (212.129.207.209) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 03:54 pm: |
i think it was just a lottery. They randomly picked someone from each company that could go home.
But he was the latest easy member that was back in the states. He had an accident as you might now from the series
| By SYL (Wings) (200.27.153.170) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 04:16 pm: |
thanks Bobandluzfan
yeah, that was a lottery
but after Welsh picks a number
and the private(or else) who was holding the helmet leaves
you can see that the helmet is empty
there was only one name in it
and i suppose it was to relieve Shifty
from any guilt or remorse for having to
leave his friends just in the beginning of another war
(though it was over before they were re-deployed)
but was just wondering the reason why the officers decided it had to be Shifty
| By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (62.251.0.22) on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 02:01 pm: |
well he never was injured and thus never received a purple heart and i guess he had the fewest points ('JESUS i thought i had it bad' (Malarkey)) 
. so he would NEVER ever make it home with so few points.
great scene is that, BTW, especially when it turns out the helmet is empty!
irene
| By Ilja Buschman (Bobandluzfan) (80.60.206.185) on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 04:42 pm: |
he was never injured while he was at easy company. Malarkey asked him how many points he had. Then he said: "75 points, no purple heart, never was injured."
But then when he can go home, he was injured in his pelvis if i remember correctly. And then you hear Winters say: "I wish i could say he was our only casualtie in Austria" And then you see the accident with Janovec.
| By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (62.251.0.22) on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 02:56 am: |
yes ilja i knew that about him being injured on his way home. i was just thinking about an explanation why he was the one who got the ticket home. and i guess it was because he had ALWAYS been on the front line, had been with easy since its formation, and was the only one who never was injured. (i think luz and maybe some others remained injury-free too, but maybe they had more points?).
irene
| By Ilja Buschman (Bobandluzfan) (212.129.207.209) on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 06:57 am: |
yeah i think so too. luz was "a lucky bastard"
| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (12.241.64.130) on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:43 pm: |
I think it's pretty amazing how much the scene in the series looks so much like the real thing!
| By jan dawn doronila (Potatomasher) (202.78.97.13) on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:08 am: |
Very much the same indeed! (the only difference is -- no color!!)
| By Jonathan Jones (Jonjones) (213.1.110.219) on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:15 pm: |
Brilliant photos! If anyone else in this "BoB Family" has any more on any of the subject matter that this site covers, I do hope that they get round to posting them?
Regards to All.
Jonathan Jones (UK)
| By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.147) on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 02:17 pm: |
It's so sad that BoB is over
I cried that night after last episode, it was so touching. I'm so happy that I'm not the only one.
Iines
| By cias (Cias) (208.148.113.111) on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 09:41 pm: |
Iines
You' re not the only one. Whether everyone cried or not we all shared a feeling of loss, an emptiness.
But try looking at it this way, if you taped it or eventually buy it in a store you can look at it again. Each time you' ll see something you missed before.
Now, you can show your respect for those men by being the best person you can be. This is a loose knit community which posts on several sites. You' re part of us. Hang in there.
Also, spread the word about what you' ve learned to make this a better world.
If you haven' t read the Ambrose books, do so. A good book site is ABEBooks. com. Go to David Kenyon Webster.com and order the revised edition of "Parachute Infantry."
"Good luck. God bless you" Lt. Winters-D-Day
Gary
| By Iines (Iines) (195.197.126.45) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 01:52 pm: |
Yes, luckily I have taped five episodesAnd luckily there is the DVD coming soon.
I haven't read BoB-book yet, but I will. It must be good because series was so wonderfull.
Thanks for these sites!
Iines
| By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.170.2.80) on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 09:05 am: |
Iines, i feel the same way. Y'know, no matter how many times i've seen the series, ep 10 never fails to make me cry
gold
| By Iines (Iines) (195.197.126.125) on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 01:37 pm: |
It's so sad that they didn't tell what happened to Guardnere, Toye and other men we knew I would really like to know. I hope they tell it in the book.
I also usually start crying when I see that baseball match in the end
Iines
| By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.170.2.79) on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 04:25 pm: |
Iines, that would be Guarnere. Yeah, he lost his leg but he saved his buddy's life. Wasn't that so touching? Yes, the book says about what happened to the guys of Easy in the end. Do you have the book yet or still planning to buy it?
gold
| By Iines (Iines) (195.197.126.112) on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 02:18 pm: |
Yes, it was so sad, and Toye and Guarnere were both my favourites Well, I'm happy they didn't die. I don't have the book yet but I will buy it soon.
Iines
| By Cameron Ross (Hedge) (216.221.81.98) on Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 05:09 pm: |
I have a question about this episode:
When Winters is talking to that Major General about transferring to the Pacific, does the Major General say "You've done enough" when referring to Winter's combat experience? At first I thought he said "You dont have enough"
Also, he says "Frankly I think you may have earned the right to .... " and I couldn't make out the rest of what he said. Anyone know?
I wonder why he wouldn't want to send such a qualified leader and devoted man to the Pacific rather then keep him idle in Europe?
| By homefront41 (Homefront41) (198.81.26.142) on Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 05:28 pm: |
Cameron, Remember, that interview was set up to discuss Winters' request to transfer to the Pacific -- to leave Easy Company to join another unit in the PTO. At that point in time, it was more efficient from the Army's standpoint to leave him where he was with Easy Company, at least until they could determine what they were going to do with the Airborne forces. In the end, of course, there was no need for Easy to go to the Pacific. And if there had been, there was certainly a lot of consideration ("you've done enough") for many of those units which had been on the front lines in battle for as many days as the invasion forces up until that time. Ultimately, the General expressed the thought that his men had earned the right to keep him as their commander. Amen. And so they have, to this very day. BK
| By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (131.174.208.173) on Friday, November 08, 2002 - 01:37 am: |
i think the 'you've done enough' part was about him being fit for handling a batalion of his own in the Pacific.
i think the general said 'frankly i think your men have earned the right to keep you around as their commander' ....not sure that's the exact line, though. maybe Gold can help you out she's a real expert on this!
irene
| By Cameron Ross (Hedge) (216.221.81.99) on Friday, November 08, 2002 - 11:59 am: |
Yea that sounds right and makes sense. Thanks
| By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.170.2.83) on Friday, November 08, 2002 - 09:28 pm: |
Irene, Cameron and all: the general was just saying "In fact i think they've earned the right to keep you around" and nothing more Hope that helped...
gold
| By Michael Wisotzkey (Afireinside) (24.171.107.160) on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 07:28 pm: |
OK! I was watching "We Stand Alone Together" and Dick was talking about when the German offered him his Luger. The way he talked, he took it and still has it. In the series, he said "You may keep your sidearm."
Whats going on!?!?!?
| By Michael Wisotzkey (Afireinside) (24.171.107.160) on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 07:29 pm: |
Chris, its Adolf =)
| By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.16) on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 02:21 pm: |
Hello all!
Did someone ever find out was that man who Liebgott wanted to kill and Sisk killed, really concentration camp's leader?
I think i agree with Webster, it was maybe too fast decision because there wasn't certain proof.
But maybe he was really guilty and then he definitely earned to be killed.
Iines
| By Joe Hammer (Hammerjoe) (207.179.180.34) on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 08:18 pm: |
Hi,
First of all this is my first post here, now that the registartion system is working.
Second this is an awesome site. Keep up the good work.
Third, yeah I loved BoB, it is an amazing show.
Now to comment on the last episode, altough it was good, I think it would been better if instead of just showing the guys playing basketball they should find some way of having the actors morphed into the real guys.
That would have a tremendous impact to the viewer because it would be the final confirmation that it was real, this happened and these same old guys at the end of the episode lived it.
Can you imagine the impact?
| By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 08:51 pm: |
Joe, i think you meant baseball?
Welcome aboard and enjoy the site.
gold
| By Joe Hammer (Hammerjoe) (142.166.122.163) on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 10:08 pm: |
Thanks for the heads up Marigold...
| By Leonie ten Cate (Lechan) (217.120.162.33) on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 03:42 am: |
Hey Joe, You'd better watch it for Gold She likes telling us what the right thing is if we said a wrong thing Just kiddin!!!
Hey Welcome Joe! Your idea would be pretty cool, but not all of the Easy-guys made it, so it would have bin a problem. But it was a pretty good idea!
Next week here in Holland ; The making of BoB !!!! Can't hardly wait :-P !!!!!!!!!
| By Iines (Iines) (195.197.127.1) on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 02:34 pm: |
Welcome Joe!
Nice to get new BoB-nuts here
Iines
| By Joe Hammer (Hammerjoe) (142.166.122.183) on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 11:16 pm: |
Thanks for the welcoming.
Bob is a great show.
For me personally it made me wanting to go and meet all those guys and listen to their stories to find out how it happened.
Kinda weird huh?
| By Leonie ten Cate (Lechan) (217.120.162.33) on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 04:47 am: |
Ow no it's not weird at all!!! Really, i want to talk with the real E-guys as well and listen to their story and what they think about BoB andso
I think everyone wants that now we've seen BoB But i'm way to shy to speak with them if i get the oppurtunity (I hope i spell that right)
| By stephen stallebrass (Drstallebrass) (62.253.32.5) on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 09:28 am: |
Hi,
I think the last episode is perfect just the way it is, to have morphed the actors and the real veterans would have been to much like that of Saving Private Ryan. It already has a major impact, well it does on me anyway. It makes me cry like a baby every time, especially the part about Luz.
Great idea but I think it may have spoilt it. What I mean is that although SPR is a great movie and in parts based on truth it was dramatised/fictionalised quite a lot, and although BoB has very close ties to SPR it is so much more: BoB is nearly 100% absolutely accurate. This dedication to accuracy is what makes it such a respectable piece and what makes it so great. This is where I think so much of the love, admiration, appreciation and respect of all of us comes from. To do the morphing thing would be to hollywoodise it too much ultimately lowering the standard of the piece.
For many SPR inspired people to watch BoB, which in turn changed the way people looked at this subject: from being a subject of war movies to a real life subject and sparked so such interest in the war for many to look more into it. This is absolutely true in my case. I probably wouldn't have watched BoB if I had not enjoyed SPR so much, well when I watched BoB with great anticipation I was not let down, I was hooked and ever since I have become a second world war buff and an Ambrose enthusiast. The only book of his that I have not read is Wild Blue, which is on my shelf waiting to be read.
I now try to convert as many people that I meet as I can in becoming BoB fans because I know when they watch it they'll be hooked and it will change their outlook and attitudes to life forever. Got 3 or 4 hooked just a couple of weeks ago, they hadn't watched it but had heard of it and I don't think they really understood what it was about. I showed them episode 2 (thought I'd drop them in it right from the jump) well as soon as the real vets started talking they knew this was not a conventional war movie but something that had to be given respect and had to be taken seriosly because it was real, especially when you see the real emotion and that these men were getting upset and on the brink of tears, especially Martin. I welled up straight away (as I always do) and I think they did too they never said a word till the end credits rolled. And heypresto they're hooked two of them even said they were gonna get the dvd box set the next day based on what they had seen.
I think they felt enlightened even though they had only seen the one episode they felt connected and wanted more.
Just my Humble opinion, hope this don't offend anyone. Anyway a warm welcome all newcomers and I'd love some feedback to see how you all feel. I'm guessing BoB makes you all feel the same as me or you wouldn't be here. Please feel free to see my profile if you wanna know anymore about me. Theres a great quote there so have a look. Oh and if you have not read the BoB book yet then WHY NOT? You're missing a whole other plane to BOB. I also highly reccomend Pegasus bridge by Ambrose.
Have a great christmas and a merry new year, don't forget to make a toast to all those who made sacrifices to give us our freedom.
steve stallebrass
Peterborough, England
| By Ewa Molik (Layyla) (212.182.63.102) on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 01:59 pm: |
can anyone possibly find and put here photos from the 10th episode with the views on lakes and mountains?i'd be grateful if you could help me on this, maybe send me a link for this e-mail adress: layyla@o2.pl thank you
| By yvette thomas (Bettyb) (194.117.133.182) on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 02:37 pm: |
Hello! warm greeting sent from blighty! this is my first night on here, and i think it's a a fitting tribute to the men of Easy Co. The last episode is heartbreaking-i hate to see grown men cry, and when the vets tell they're stories, it gets me every time. I liked how Speirs showed his warm caring side when Grant was injured (i'm a big Settle fan, so sorry if i drone one!), and to see them all celebrating and happy was lovely, especially after all the ups and downs in the series. I've just ordered this on DVD for chrimbo, and i'm gonna get a big box of tissues and watch it over the festive period.
| By steve lundy (Breechblock) (216.209.164.82) on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 09:05 pm: |
Hi everyone out there in the BoB world.
Homefront, if you could answer me a quick question. I noticed that the insignia on the men of Easy Companys wedge caps, at the beginning of the series, just had a parachute, and at the end there looked to be an airplane or a glider with the parachute. My question is were the 101st glider borne infantry also?? If so when did the men of Easy Co. use them and where?
Hope everyone is well.
Steve L.
| By homefront41 (Homefront41) (198.81.26.142) on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 12:32 pm: |
Steve, The one thing I know for sure about badges and patches of that era is that they changed a lot. Many of the units were brand new and it took a while for the nature of their capabilities to settle in and so naturally, the patches changed with the definitions. At some point glider parachute infantry was added to the TO&E of the 101st Airborne and the round overseas cap patch was changed to include the glider. Officers wore a patch showing the glider heading left, enlisted men wore the patch with the right heading glider.
In the series, you are right. Here’s one of Jane’s screencaps of Ron Livingston (Lewis Nixon) from Episode 1 on June 5, 1944, waiting for the Go signal for the invasion to begin. It’s the best demonstration I could find. Next to it is a promo shot of Matthew Settle (Capt. Ron Spiers) from Episode 10 at Zell am Zee, Austria in the summer of ’45.
If you all haven’t visited the Currahee site (506th Airborne Infantry Regiment Association – Airmobile – Air Assault), http://currahee.hispeed.com/index.htm
Two sections in particular have lots of information, including books and articles as well as photos. Click on Photographs and History and wander around the Parachute Infantry Regiment ’42-’45 section. Keep clicking through on everything there is to see. You’ll be surprised at how much information is there. Then click on the Gallery Photos, Maps, Articles and Memorabilia.
There is much more information about the 506th Currahees who carried on the legacy of the men you have come to know through Band of Brothers. Enjoy. BK
| By homefront41 (Homefront41) (198.81.26.142) on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 12:42 pm: |
Sorry, but I cannot seem to upload the photos that illustrate the previous post. I'll try again later. BK
| By Michael Wisotzkey (Afireinside) (24.171.107.160) on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 02:15 pm: |
Silly Holland people, you get the BOB making
| By homefront41 (Homefront41) (198.81.26.142) on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 01:46 am: |
I'll try to upload those patches again:
Officers: 
Enlisted:
| By steve lundy (Breechblock) (216.209.143.41) on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 01:38 pm: |
Homefront,
Thanks for the message. Another thing that I found amazing is when E Co. came back from Normandy and after Holland, when they needed people who were trained, and guys like Soble who had gone through training was put in some sort of logistical job. Don't you think he might have been better if he served on the line? My god he couldn't have been any worse than fox hole Norman. I think what he needed was to have someone like Winters over him to show him what leadership was all about, on and off the line. Then, maybe he might not have been so disgruntled after the war. What people have to have sometimes is that little boot in the ••• to turn the lightswitch on and show them how it's done, then maybe, just maybe that could of turned him into something useful.
Just my thoughts.
Hope everyone is well.
Steve L.
| By steve lundy (Breechblock) (216.209.143.41) on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 02:06 pm: |
To Steve in Peterborough England.
I myself watched SPR and really enjoyed it, but knowing it was just a "story" and not the real story took something out of it. Just like the movie "Memphis Belle". When the movie came out, I went to see it and all I got out of it was it was entertaining. The only truth about the movie was that there was a plane named Memphis Belle, completed all of her missions and got to go home. In the real film, which I have, the plane and her crew go out on their final mission and get home without a scratch, far different than the Hollywood release, which is to bad.
When BoB came out, some friends of mine seen the first episode on T.V and said it was kind of boring. So with this depressing bit of news in hand I never seen any of it until just recently, when an army buddy of mine was on leave from Bosnia and he had the tapes, so I watched them.
Boy was I shocked. This was "THE BEST" movie or series I have ever seen, and best of all they used the actual names of the soldiers involved so you can see who's who and who did what. Great stuff is all I can say, and I am making it a point to pick up on it at the begining of the Battle of the Bulge, since the anniversary is almost here. I wonder what the next project will be, anyone have any idea??
Have a great day everyone.
Steve L.
| By homefront41 (Homefront41) (198.81.26.142) on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 04:01 pm: |
Steve: Re your query: "Another thing that I found amazing is when E Co. came back from Normandy and after Holland, when they needed people who were trained, and guys like Soble who had gone through training was put in some sort of logistical job. Don't you think he might have been better if he served on the line?"
No, I don't. It had already been determined that Lt. Sobel was a good trainer, but did not engender confidence as a leader among his men. Not everyone is up to it. He was reassigned by Col Sink to the training facility in Chilton Foliat and would have been responsible for training all the new replacements who replenished the units after the losses at Normandy. By the end of the war, Herbert Sobel had reached the rank of Captain (and by the way, retired after 20 years at a LTC). I'm sure he did a great job in Supply. Let's not forget that something close to 9 out of 10 people in uniform were engaged in support of the the one man on the line where the bullets were flying. Not everyone was cut out to be a combat leader. Many of them excelled in the support roles without which, the guys on the line could never have survived. The logistical challenges were enormous to supply those men. Everyone contributed according to his abilities.
As far as Dike is concerned, as portrayed, he would have better served the war effort if he'd shot himself in the foot, as some who couldn't hack combat did.
And finally, I'd like to make the point that when we discuss these events and these real men who survived them, we are not dissecting last week's football match, or as we say here in the US, Monday morning quarterbacking. We are discussing men under fire in the most extreme circumstances a human can imagine. We need to study it and appreciate that there is context that we do not have (unless, of course, one has spent the worst winter in Europe freezing and undernourished living in the wild and getting shot at on a daily basis). And, at the rate we are losing these men, likely we never will have as thoroughly as we'd like. We should probably just take them at their word and honor them as they deserve.
Just my thoughts. BK
| By yvette thomas (Bettyb) (194.117.133.182) on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 05:41 am: |
i agree totally with homefront-i feel very priviledged to have got a glimpse into what these men went through. No matter how good the special effects were, or even the acting for that matter, we will never truelly know what really happened down to the exact detail. I think that we take what we have today for granted, and it would be all to easy to sit here and faff overy every detail in the series, and comment on why someone did this/that and their reasons for doing so. We weren't there-we can only imagine the horror these men went trough, and i personally am quite happy to just watch the series and comment that these men were very brave.
| By steve lundy (Breechblock) (216.209.116.132) on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 08:56 am: |
Homefront,
Thanks for the reply.
One of the reasons I had wondered why Soble wasn't used is later in the war, the U.S., England, and our country were screaming for men who were better trained, because half of the replacements that were sent to the front had been pushed through as quickly as possible. Hence Mr. Mclung saying in his interview it was always the replacements who got killed first. As far as putting soble back with Easy Co., that would have been a disaster waiting to happen. Someone would have probably knocked him off anyways. On the other hand I know that as soon as officers started to really screw things up they were soon replaced themselves.
And on a last note, as far as living in the wilds, freezing my ••• off in some European country in the winter, while a bunch of idiots are shooting at you on a daily basis, been there, done that, not impressed. Welcome to Yugoslavia.
Have a god day everyone.
Steve L.
| By homefront41 (Homefront41) (198.81.26.142) on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:09 pm: |
SLundy: "And on a last note, as far as living in the wilds, freezing my ••• off in some European country in the winter, while a bunch of idiots are shooting at you on a daily basis, been there, done that, not impressed. Welcome to Yugoslavia."
Just so, Steve. How many reading these boards do you suppose have any clue about the context of that experience? And that is precisely what I'm saying. If we haven't been there, all we have are dramatizations that are usually pale comparisons, even the great ones like BoB.
The Easy men made it a point to welcome Herbert Sobel's son to their reunion this past October and virtually to a man, each in his turn let Michael know that his father's training is what made the difference in their surviving. Re-assigning him to Chilton Foliat was an effective use of his abilities. It is unfortunate that all the replacements didn't have the advantage of the 20 months lead time for training that the Toccoa men had. But the war could not stand still. And that's pretty much what that story was.
Another point which I have read elsewhere. The all-encompassing, from-the-ground-up training that the Toccoa men of the 506th underwent was devised from the very beginning by Col. Sink and executed by the staff. It was the first (and I understood it to be the only, but I could be wrong) Regiment so trained, from scratch and with each other. Strayer had the 2nd Battalion. There were many who contributed to the superb condition and training of Easy Company. BK
| By steve lundy (Breechblock) (216.209.141.8) on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 09:45 am: |
Homefront,
Thanks for the reply, and your right, most people have no idea what goes on in a hostile environment, and for that matter it doesn't matter what time of year it is. Every season brings out its own difficulties you have to deal with.
I was asked about it a few times and after trying to explain, well, it was kind of the deer in the headlights look. So I just say it was different, thats all.
Also I found one of my WWII magazines that is the special collectors edition for Band of Brothers, which I read last night, and read the part where Col.Sink , when he showed up at the camp there was pretty much nothing for him. It said he had to beg, borrow or steal to get the supplies he needed, and seeing some of the pictures in this magazine he also made up the whole training program himself.
At the end of one the articles there was a very fitting line from Major Winters, "When they gave out campaign ribbons at the end of the war, they should have given one out for Toccoa". That preety well sums it up.
On a last note, and this is by no way taking anything away from the men of E. Co., the first Canadian Parachute Battalion, in it's infancy, was put together by volunteers from all walks of life in Canada and did all their training at Ft. Benning. There they went through their training which lasted four weeks, based on a syllabus created by the U.S. Army and on completion of that course they had to complete their jumps to be qualified Paratroopers. All of their training went from August 1942 until March 1943, until their camp was set up in Shilo Manatoba.. But they were all volunteers who had never been together before or trained together and when training was finished they were a battalion of some 650 strong.
Around this time there was a call for volunteers to join the 2nd Canadian Parachute Battalion, then training at Fort William Henry Harrison outside Helena Montana. This battalion had become part of a joint American-Canadian combat unit known as the First Special Service Force, all volunteers from two different countries to form up one cohesive fighting unit.
It's funny, of all the vets I have had the extreme pleasure of knowing over the years, some British, lots Canadian, some German and some American, they all say that their training was the hardest. But then again most of these fellas were'nt Paratroopers.
Have a great day.
Steve L.
| By adrian davies (Adrian) (195.92.168.166) on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 01:22 pm: |
Can anyone help me with a question on the locations of the scenes that were shot to represent the Zell am See lakeside area?I understand from the book that Easy Company spent time in and around the village of Kaprum in Austria but was wondering where the film scenes were shot.If possible I would like to visit the area as it looks so beautiful in the series.I would like to track down the locations where Winters swam and Nixon and Winters are seen talking in a house overlooking the Lake.
| By irene vrinte (Gijoe) (62.251.51.95) on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 04:42 am: |
adrian, all i know is that they didn't shoot the austria scenes in austria because of the politic situation there at the time of shooting (extreme right-wing politician Jorge Haider just having won the elections)....and that they went to Switzerland to film instead. don't know anything about exact locations, however, but at least it's something!
irene
| By adrian davies (Adrian) (195.92.168.170) on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 12:42 pm: |
Thanks very much Irene,your reply helped.The scenes shot around the lake reminded me a lot of the area around Lake Lausanne in Switzerland.I went their some years back.I may be able to go back later this year.For the present I am planning a trip to Aldbourne and Normandy next month, maybe I will find out more information while I am there.
Thanks
Adrian
| By joao leonel (Joao) (200.163.13.190) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 10:46 pm: |
How close was the 101st from the pacific??
We criticize a lot but if the atomic bombs werent the dropped a lot more people would die because those japaneses were crazyer than the germans!
But maybe the bombs shouldnt be dropped in a town like hiroshima or nagazaki because killing soldiers is one thing and inoccent people is other.. well thats a long discution....
| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (12.239.81.247) on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 06:20 pm: |
Thanks to Steph from Holland for this picture of Zell Am See. He went to the headquarters of the 101st in the Grand Hotel in Zell am See. With an Eagle eye you can see the Grand Hotel in the distance on the right side. It took him about 2 1/2 hours to do the 14 kilometers. The picture is taken from the northside of the lake.
| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (12.239.81.247) on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 06:38 pm: |
Zell Am See looking from the south
The Grand Hotel in Zell Am See that was the HQ for the 101st.
Thanks again to Steph
| By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 07:39 am: |
Oh wow!!! such terrific pictures!!! breath-taking as it was in the series!
gold
| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (12.239.81.247) on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 07:45 pm: |
More from Steph...
Entering Kaprun. You see a mountain in the distance; this is the Lechnerberg. Steph learned from the locals this is for sure the mountain where the Easy company group picture was taken.
| By Cesar Elias Sanjur III (Cesare) (200.46.128.91) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 06:11 pm: |
Hello everyone...
Joao, the 101st was scheduled to be redeployed to the Pacific to be a part in the two gigantic operations that would have put a bloody end to the war: Operations "Olympic" and "Coronet", which were no less than the invasion of Japan in two stages: first a landing in the Kyushu island in November 1945 (Olympic) and a landing in Honshu, the principal island -where Tokyo is placed- in the spring of 1946 (Coronet). As far as I know the 101st would have been a part of Coronet. You're right, the dropping of the two atomic bombs and the earlier calculations of the projected U.S. casualties (between 500,000 and 1 million soldiers) due to the expected fanatical resistance from the Japanese forces and population were the key reasons to keep the 101st out of the rest of the war!
On the other hand, and although revisionist historians have claimed that the real reason behind the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was racism, the sad truth is that Germany and Japan were also chasing the dragon and they would have used this weapon in the battlefield and over a civilian target without any regrets or remorse. Captured German documents show us that they had planned to drop the bomb over New York in either a modified V-2 rocket or in the "Atlantic Bomber" (the Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Kondor). And about the Japanese... well, they would have less, less remorse than the Germans.
And finally, when the Trinity test bomb exploded in Alamogordo in July 1945 the Manhattan Project's scientists did not know about another powerful and lethal thing about the bomb: radioactivity. It was after Little Boy and Fat Man that they realised that they truly had opened the Pandora's Box.
See you,
Cesare
| By Ewa Molik (Layyla) (212.182.102.130) on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 04:12 pm: |
wow!
how absolutely marvellous! outstanding photographs. thanks to Steph it's so nice for you to share those with us. i'll try to go there maybe this year an hope to see it all.
again, just beautiful
ewa
| By Martin Scott Cooper (Martin4301) (213.40.189.204) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 06:39 pm: |
Just to say that BoB is a truly amazing show and i agree with just about everything on this page. im planning on buying the book soon too. Whats it like , is it as good as the mini series? better? worse? feedback on this would be greatly appreciated.
Also i dont no if is just me but, in the episode "Replacements" im sure i see the real Babe Heffron in scene 3 where they are walking through eindhoven, Holland with all the people greeting them and welcoming them. I see him when sgt.talbert has the lady in the pink dress on his knee , he is waving the dutch flag, wearing a brown/black hat. I dont know if he is ment to be there or what , i just thought it was worth asking about. Dont suppose anyone else has seen this too?
| By Marigold Papa (Marigold) (203.160.183.79) on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 05:39 am: |
Hello Martin and welcome! Yep, the book is very good too, i recommend both the series and the book together
Nope, it's not just you. That was indeed the real Babe Heffron in ep 4!!! ;)
gold
| By Chris Langlois (Chrisdfw) (4.42.202.200) on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 07:07 pm: |
Signal Corps photo of the 101st at Hitler's Eagle's Nest.
| By Ana Vega (Ana) (80.58.41.236) on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:50 am: |
Hi everyone!
I am a new member of this great site from sunny Spain and this is my first message. Why did I decide to join? Because I feel like Robinson Crusoe living in a desert island. One of the Spanish TV Channel aired the last episode yesterday of BoB. Believe it or not, this great series was shown late at night (sometimes at 00:40, sometimes at 02:00)so this situation got a poor audience (only 20% of share)Thanks God, I am on holiday during this month and I could tape the whole episodes the same day without sleeping in front of the tv!!!!. It's unfair! All of you even got a copy of the CD or VHS with those superb extras, making of and so on, but not me. Is it possible that someone tape it for me? No matter the video system as i bought a recorder with both ones. I would be the happiest girl in the world!
On the other hand, I would like my opinion about that. I think this series is the best one I've ever seen. My congratulations to all the cast and crew and also my congratulations to this site.
Well, it's enough to start, don't you think? Thanks for your attention.
Best wishes,
Ana
| By Kerry Jones (Kerry) (213.51.0.208) on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 08:24 am: |
Hi Ana!
Here in Holland we can buy the DVD collection in the shops, but no video collection (I don't think the series has been brought out on VHS). For the DVD you could look on sites as Amazon.com.
Good luck!
Kerry
| By Joost van Nunen (Wapenbroeders) (195.240.71.171) on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 10:49 am: |
Hi all,
I want to correct Kerry, the serie has been brought out on VHS here in holland.
You can buy the videos in the normal shops or at big companys like "bol" or something
currahee,
joost
| By Ana Vega (Ana) (80.58.41.236) on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 11:46 am: |
Hi again!
Wow, this web really works very fast!!!. Thanks Joost and Kerry for your help. Yes, I found both cd & video at amazon.com so I just ordered it this morning.
But only one question more: has anyone got Esquire magazine, issue sept '01, with BoB on the cover?
Hugs + kisses to everyone,
Ana
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